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On this page 14, of this thread the coming out of branding conservatives as greedy is strong. However those claiming that are failing to look at the faults and the greed and the twist of intent on their side of political choices and beliefs as well.
Yes, a lot of conservatism does seem to be based on selfishness, and a belief that we are all islands, unaffected by what happens to our neighbors and fellow citizens.
The new movement seems to believe this, which is an extreme (and false) position. On the flipside, extreme leftists hold the opposite view (which is also false); that we have no individualism.
The paternal intellectual who confident in his own brilliance states unequivocally that he knows better what the masses need than they do and thus is justified in taking from those who have to distribute based on his own intellectual prowess.
And the greed and insipid avarice of the huddled masses who look with jealousy at the wealth of those who have earned what they have.
There is no such thing as liberalism without greed. There is no such thing as liberalism without haughty paternal intellectualism.
Yes, a lot of conservatism does seem to be based on selfishness, and a belief that we are all islands, unaffected by what happens to our neighbors and fellow citizens.
Is it so wrong to live conservatively and save your money so you can have a decent retirement and not have to worry about being poor ?
Is it so wrong that you go without to save some extra money to take a vacation every now and then ?
Is it so wrong that you save to send your kids to college without any government/private loans so that no one is beholden to any bank or government after graduation ?
You seem to think anyone who is conservative is hoarding their money all for themselves. How's about they are trying to live as debt free as possible while saving to fund their own retirement and not look for handouts.
Even the Bible..for those that think conservatives are selfish, says to take care of yourself first before taking care of your neighbor.
Is it so wrong to live conservatively and save your money so you can have a decent retirement and not have to worry about being poor ?
Is it so wrong that you go without to save some extra money to take a vacation every now and then ?
Is it so wrong that you save to send your kids to college without any government/private loans so that no one is beholden to any bank or government after graduation ?
You seem to think anyone who is conservative is hoarding their money all for themselves. How's about they are trying to live as debt free as possible while saving to fund their own retirement and not look for handouts.
Even the Bible..for those that think conservatives are selfish, says to take care of yourself first before taking care of your neighbor.
Those are great views happy but those views are not conservative values or exclusive to those that claim to be conservatives.
I think the rise of disc jockeys and the popularity of the revisionist history and world view they spout have really distorted what it means to be conservative or liberal.
Take a look at this site (http://www.gop.com/index.php/learn/accomplishment/ - broken link) happy. Based on the disc jockey ideologues standards, the pre-1994 GOP would be considered bleeding heart socialist liberals for their record on public investment for infrastructure, diplomacy and social equity legislation.
Those are great views happy but those views are not conservative values or exclusive to those that claim to be conservatives.
True, now I wish people specially those that stand by their political stance and call the other greedy, or power hungry would realize those are human conditions possible for anyone
And I've yet to hear a single liberal explain the results of the two studies mentioned. Both which show that conservatives give more money and time to charities than liberals.
It's not difference in income. Giving to religion based charities was factored out.
So please explain..if conservatives are soooo selfish, so worried about "my money"...why are they giving up more than liberals?
Those are great views happy but those views are not conservative values or exclusive to those that claim to be conservatives.
I think the rise of disc jockeys and the popularity of the revisionist history and world view they spout have really distorted what it means to be conservative or liberal.
Take a look at this site (http://www.gop.com/index.php/learn/accomplishment/ - broken link) happy. Based on the disc jockey ideologues standards, the pre-1994 GOP would be considered bleeding heart socialist liberals for their record on public investment for infrastructure, diplomacy and social equity legislation.
I looked over that site and agree with all up to Nixon. I think from Nixon on something changed not only in the party but to American politics overall.
I was just thinking about the statistics that get posted about conservatives being more generous or not, or liberals are more or not.
How am I suppose to know the truth about that? Who makes the statistics? There is only one person I can account for sure good or bad, and that is me.
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