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Old 02-19-2010, 12:37 PM
 
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Joe Lieberman and Ben Nelson.
And why didn't they support it considering Nelson is a Democrat and Lieberman caucuses with the Democrats. You claim the public option is universally supported including conservative states so why didn't both Senators support it.
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Old 02-19-2010, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Progressive Change Campaign Committee (PCCC) - AR Poll (http://boldprogressives.org/lincolnpoll - broken link)
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Old 02-19-2010, 12:39 PM
 
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The vast majority of Americans have no clue what reconciliation is. If the public option (and health care for in general) passes, the manner in which it passes will be long history in the country the following week. The Dem's in the Senate need to man up and get 'er done.
Most Americans are unfamiliar with reconciliation at the present because it hasn't been an issue thus far. If it should go through reconcilliation, you can rest assured that most Americans will be informed as every media outlet will discuss it ad nauseum.
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Old 02-19-2010, 12:40 PM
 
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And why didn't they support it considering Nelson is a Democrat and Lieberman caucuses with the Democrats. You claim the public option is universally supported including conservative states so why didn't both Senators support it.
Nelson has always been quite conservative, Lieberman who the hell knows why, butthis is a guy who campaigned for McCain last year.
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Old 02-19-2010, 12:42 PM
 
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Progressive Change Campaign Committee (PCCC) - AR Poll (http://boldprogressives.org/lincolnpoll - broken link)
I already responded to this from another poster. In short, that's an incredibly biased poll considering the source and even with that said, their results only showed a slight majority of 56%. That is not what I or anyone else would deem an objective study.
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Old 02-19-2010, 12:43 PM
 
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Most Americans are unfamiliar with reconciliation at the present because it hasn't been an issue thus far. If it should go through reconcilliation, you can rest assured that most Americans will be informed as every media outlet will discuss it ad nauseum.
So where was the media when Republicans used budget reconciliation for the Bush tax cuts?
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Old 02-19-2010, 12:43 PM
 
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Most Americans are unfamiliar with reconciliation at the present because it hasn't been an issue thus far. If it should go through reconcilliation, you can rest assured that most Americans will be informed as every media outlet will discuss it ad nauseum.
Yes, and the reason it hasn't been an issue thus far is because we have never seen the filibuster used to such an extent. Reconciliation or Filibustering the living hell out of every last thing, what do you think will play better with the American public?
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Old 02-19-2010, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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Yes, and the reason it hasn't been an issue thus far is because we have never seen the filibuster used to such an extent. Reconciliation or Filibustering the living hell out of every last thing, what do you think will play better with the American public?
Good point. The public wants action. Republicans have given none, especially when they had the power to do something about health care reform.
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Old 02-19-2010, 12:46 PM
 
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Did you read the article? The group who conducted the survey was "The Progressive Change Campaign Committee and Democracy for America", could we be any more biased? And even with that being said, they only reported a slight majority with 56% approving it in Arkansas. This is hardly an objective study.
Did you read it? It says it was conducted for the P.C.C.C. & Democracy for America, not conducted by them.

The Research 2000 Arkansas Poll was conducted for the Progressive Change Campaign Committee and Democracy for America from Oct. 27 - Oct. 28, 2009.
(Research 2000 also does polling for the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, Lexington Herald-Leader, Fort Wayne News Sentinel, South Bend Tribune, and Reno Gazette-Journal.)

See, I love polling pissing matches!!!
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Old 02-19-2010, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Progressive Change Campaign Committee (PCCC) - AR Poll (http://boldprogressives.org/lincolnpoll - broken link)
another poll from oct 2009...

old news and no longer VALID
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