Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
At the same time he stopped the voucher program in washington that so many poor children went to better schools because of the teaher special interest group. I wouold bet he lets the same group change the program to were no poor child gets a break.
1. All public funding for education is ended.
2. All taxation of education is ended.
3. Parents / guardians pay for whatever schooling they wish.
If parents want their child to attend a school where the emphasis is on "sports entertainment" and not on the quality of the library or instruction, so be it.
If parents want a babysitting service that does not produce results, so be it.
But make the parents directly pay for it. Let the market decide.
And if the child is born to parents who don't care about the child's future?
Why substitute indifferent parents for indifferent teachers?
Give each child an equal shot at a quality education with a voucher.
If the public schools are unable to compete with the private academies and church schools, then they should go.
Studies show most kids, stay in school. The study above is usually a mirror for the rest of the country. Out of the 56,000 schools studied, most of the drop outs only came from 500 specific schools, in the worst areas of the SF area. Thats a lot better than it was in the 60's through the 80's.
Have you ever been to Memphis? The whole city is a disaster, thats like saying that Detroits bad, of course it is. It has been for years, and its got little to nothing to do with education.
Its hard to find teachers to teach, in a war zone.
Here is a national study. 95% of students stay in school, and get their high school diploma.
If you're calling that a failure, I'd like to see your definition of success
Five out of every 100 young adults enrolled in high school in October 1999 left school before October 2000 without successfully completing a high school program. The percentage of young adults who left school each year without successfully completing a high school program decreased from 1972 through 1987. Despite year-to-year fluctuations, the percentage of students dropping out of school each year has stayed relatively unchanged since 1987 (table A and figure A).
Didn't you know..the more we spend the more we save.
Odd logic but that's what we are being told.
Investment in Education: Private and Public Returns (http://www.house.gov/jec/educ.htm - broken link)
On average, the United States of American makes about 15,000 dollars more on its ROI from a student who graduates high school, over someone who doesn't
So,
You can pay for school, and earn an extra 15,000 per year over the students lifetime, or you can not pay for school, and loose 15,000 per student, per year over their lifetime.
The government makes more money, by investing in our childrens future.
These are simply the facts.
The numbers increase of college students.
It just makes sense.
" There is a strong consensus among economists that formal education is an important determinant of individual earnings as well as economic growth. The importance of formal education has been magnified by recent economic trends underlying U.S. labor market demand for skilled workers. The following is a review of the importance of education to both the individuals acquiring education and of the benefits received by society resulting from increased educational attainment."
"Zvi Griliches and Dale Jorgenson did some of the earliest work in growth accounting and they concluded that increased levels of human capital explained half of one percentage point of the annual growth in output.24 This meant that 15 to 20 percent of the annual average growth in output for the United States was explained by increases in education levels." (This study was done in the 60's)
So, who are we going to believe, a few people who obviously know little to nothing about public education, or economists who have studied this thoroughly.
When teachers don't focus on students who are doing well, and only focus on the bad students, it lowers the average standard.
Then the good students aren't getting the support they need to excel, and the bad students are getting just enough help to get by. When in an actual working environment, the students that perform badly in school, probably won't be doing well in a job.
It also teaches students, that all you have to do is "get by" and not excel
When teachers don't focus on students who are doing well, and only focus on the bad students, it lowers the average standard.
Then the good students aren't getting the support they need to excel, and the bad students are getting just enough help to get by. When in an actual working environment, the students that perform badly in school, probably won't be doing well in a job.
It also teaches students, that all you have to do is "get by" and not excel
oh BS,
a good student will excel, he doesnt need a 0ne on one...
you would rather just leave the 'no-performers' behind??????
when the teacher is able to bring the LOWER student up, she is helping the class as a WHOLE
its not about 'just getting by', its about TEACHING, even the difficult to teach.......so I guess you would rather IGNORE the lower people, just so you can excel????? how nice of you
our education system is horrible, and needs lots of work....just look at the drop out rates: if you look at dropout rates (or graduation rates) you get a very interesting look
graduation rates by state
1. Wisc 87.5
2. Neb 87.0
3. Iowa 86.9
4. Minn 86.2
5. New Jersey 84.8
6. S. Dakota 84.5
7. Penn 83.5
8. Vermont 82.3
9. N Dakota 82.1
10. Mont 81.9
.
.
.
.
New york 67.4
.
.
.
bottom 5:
45. Florida 63.6
46. Miss 63.5
47. Georgia 62.4
48 S. Carolina 61.0
49. Lousianna 59.5
50. nevada 55.8
makes you wonder, just over 50% of Nevada's high school students graduate
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.