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Let's look at this one bit at a time. For now, I'd like to focus on this statement;
A few things come to mind. First, tell us what phenomenal employment would be created. It sounds like you are talking about a phenomenal amount of administrative personell to oversee the massive amounts of beaucratic paperwork that will be created. So, where does the money to pay for this phenomenal employment come from? I'm guessing that it will come from increases in premiums for those who actually have to pay premiums. Do you have some other ideas on that?
There are other reasons why new jobs will be created. Small businesses may hire because of the burden of providing insurance to its employees. Those who feel stuck in bad jobs may jump these jobs a strike out on their own and large businesses may be better suited to compete globally.
There are other reasons why new jobs will be created. Small businesses may hire because of the burden of providing insurance to its employees. Those who feel stuck in bad jobs may jump these jobs a strike out on their own and large businesses may be better suited to compete globally.
If the demand for their product or service has not increased, a small business is going to increase it's staff? Why? So it has yet another employee for which to pay that additional cost? That doesn't make any sense to me. Please explain your thinking here.
There are other reasons why new jobs will be created. Small businesses may hire because of the burden of providing insurance to its employees. Those who feel stuck in bad jobs may jump these jobs a strike out on their own and large businesses may be better suited to compete globally.
businesses shouldn't have the burden of providing healthcare in the first place.
If the demand for their product or service has not increased, a small business is going to increase it's staff? Why? So it has yet another employee for which to pay that additional cost? That doesn't make any sense to me. Please explain your thinking here.
With increaed employment comes increased spending and many businesses will have bigger demands on their products. Lower outlay by the company because of not having to pay huge health premiums would mean a ability to pay higher wages and lower their prices....Everyone's a winner.
What coverage do you have? We paid $125/mo for our 20-something daughters after they got kicked off our insurance and before they got their own. They didn't have much coverage at that rate. I can't imagine what you're getting for $60.
Not sure i believe his $60 Dollar a month for health cover story unless he has a minimum cover and HUGE co-pays.
more than 50% of your beloved nhs are administrators. and drugs are cheap because they're bought in bulk. tell that to this tiny group of people (20000) who slipped through that net
NICE rejects drugs when it is shown that existing drugs do the same job or the drugs have NOT been passed by the UK drug administration..... this saves money from being spent on new more expensive drugs that are no better than existing cheaper ones and new untested drugs being released to the public in the UK.
Not sure where you get over 50% from but even if that was true it would still be a lot less than the admin and non medical staff needed to sell and control the American health system.
With increaed employment comes increased spending and many businesses will have bigger demands on their products. Lower outlay by the company because of not having to pay huge health premiums would mean a ability to pay higher wages and lower their prices....Everyone's a winner.
Where is that increased employment coming from? You stated earlier that implementing UHC will result in "phenomenal" job gains, but you never showed us how or where.
And there will be no LOWER outlay by companies for health insurance premiums. Every company will be paying MORE than they do now for their employees health insurance. As they are forced to pay more per employee, companies will seek to REDUCE the number of employees, so they can keep their costs from rising.
So you think that there will be PHENOMENAL hiring of all these people? Why? Do we have a gigantic shortage of health care professionals now? Does a change in the insurance company paying for our health care somehow necessitate the building of new facilites? And if so, what happens to all the existing ones?
a UHC would mean new construction of Hosptals etc etc which means a huge boost to the American building trade. New medical staff would be trained in fact many other fields would need staff to be trained and new teachers needed God the Ampunt of employment and the vast range of NEW jobs would be the BIGGEST tonic to the USA that has ever happened. Oh i forgot.... there are some in America who are happy with the way things are now..... Auto industry failing..... Construction failing..... America no loinger has any industries or makes anything anymore ... China makes nearly everything and Japan makes the rest..... You happy with that?????????
A UHC would be the biggest and best investment that America could make unless you like being in the Pocket of China and Big Corporations.
And then, you say, in the same paragraph, that there are no premiums, but there is a tax. This is like the misdirection of a half decent illusionist. Stop following the moving hand with the colorful scarf, and watch as he palms the gold coin. The TAX IS the Premium. You talk about "THE TAX" that pays for all these wonderful benefits, but you seem to have no inkling or concern about who pays that tax, but surely you have to recognize that someone does. Nothing is free. And pointing out that everyone pays it but no one recognizes it for what it is, is NOT a good thing. It's further proof that, if they are sneaky and devious enough, an unchecked government can and will take more from us than we notice. More reason to put a stop to such things, if you ask me.
Lets get the difference between premiums and tax sorted out.
Premiums only pay for your own particular health cover and is only in force while you pay the premiums.
Tax is paid by Tax payers and covers every Citizen. Health cover does NOT stop if you stop paying tax or retire and covers you for your entire life. If you never work you still get health cover. I don't mind paying tax for EVERY American to get health cover. Obviously you do. Pity you don't complain about paying Tax for every Iraqi to get helth cover and a new health system on American tax money.
Lets get the difference between premiums and tax sorted out.
Premiums only pay for your own particular health cover and is only in force while you pay the premiums.
Tax is paid by Tax payers and covers every Citizen. Health cover does NOT stop if you stop paying tax or retire and covers you for your entire life. If you never work you still get health cover. I don't mind paying tax for EVERY American to get health cover. Obviously you do. Pity you don't complain about paying Tax for every Iraqi to get helth cover and a new health system on American tax money.
You're attributing to me statements that I never made. Your quote above is partly mine and partly someone elses. Fix that, please, or I'll ask an admin to do it for you.
You may want to avoid the issue by differentiating between taxes & premiums. Whatever you want to call it, however, it's money paid for health insurance. I have no problem paying for my own insurance, and my fgamily's, but I do not feel I should be FORCED to pay for my neighbors, or anyone elses. And if some people, such as you, are generous and well off enough that they want to pay for someone elses, there are many vehicles available by which one can do that. It shouldn't be compulsory and government controlled.
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