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Old 02-23-2010, 07:10 PM
 
Location: Central Ohio
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I couldn't argue with your comments even if I wanted to, but it has little bearing on the CDO's report or this discussion since you would have to argue that the unemployment rate would be higher still than your estimate of 20% absent the number of jobs provided by the stimulus.
It could be argued the unemployment picture was far more severe in 1921 and even the great depression because most families were single wage earner families and when he lost his job all the money was gone.
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Old 02-23-2010, 07:26 PM
 
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"CBO estimates that in the fourth quarter of calendar year 2009, ARRA added between 1.0 million and 2.1 million to the number of workers employed in the United States,."
With TONS of exeptions, like!!!
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"a total of 595,263 full-time equivalant jobs-more than two-thirds of them in education-were created or retained using ARRA funds".

"One factor that could make the report figure too high is that recipients reports may include some employment that would have occured without ARRA"

"In the case of government employees, state or local taxes might have been raised in the absence of ARRA funding"
AND MORE...
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Old 02-23-2010, 07:49 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Um, Warren Buffett lost billions. Officially out to lunch. But, he was a great man in his day.
You're so correct.

In 2008, his becoming the richest man in the world was just dumb luck.

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In 2008 he was ranked by Forbes as the richest person in the world with an estimated net worth of approximately US$62 billion.[77] In 2009, after donating billions of dollars to charity, Buffett was ranked as the second richest man in the United States with a net worth of US$37 billion.[78][79] Only Bill Gates is currently ranked higher than Buffett.
Why would the economic opinion of the world's wealthiest man matter to anyone?
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Old 02-23-2010, 08:24 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Estimates are just that.

Oh, the CBO also factors in the claims made by the ARRA admin, and we know how well those figures held up in the fall of last year.
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Old 02-23-2010, 08:29 PM
 
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Uh Ohhh, this can't be good news for the GOP.

On Politics: Covering the US Congress, Governors, and the 2010 Election - USATODAY.com

The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office today released new estimates on the number of jobs created by the $862 billion stimulus package that are in line with similar estimates made by the White House.

The CBO says there were between 1 million and 2.1 million more jobs during the last three months of 2009 than there would have been without the stimulus law. The White House Council of Economic Advisers pegged that number as between 1.5 and 2 million jobs in a January report.
We save about .5%-1% unemployment for at the cost of 862 billion. Wow that's a bargain
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Old 02-23-2010, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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We save about .5%-1% unemployment for at the cost of 862 billion. Wow that's a bargain
Let's double up and shoot for 2%.
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Old 02-23-2010, 09:20 PM
 
Location: Highland, CA (formerly Newark, NJ)
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You can make all the sarcastic jabs you want. Try telling me McCain/Palin would do better while holding a straight face.
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Old 02-23-2010, 09:43 PM
 
Location: Fuquay-Varina
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2 million jobs at 50k yearly is 100 billion. Good thing we only paid 750 BILLION extra for those results.
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Old 02-23-2010, 09:47 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Uh Ohhh, this can't be good news for the GOP.

On Politics: Covering the US Congress, Governors, and the 2010 Election - USATODAY.com

The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office today released new estimates on the number of jobs created by the $862 billion stimulus package that are in line with similar estimates made by the White House.

The CBO says there were between 1 million and 2.1 million more jobs during the last three months of 2009 than there would have been without the stimulus law. The White House Council of Economic Advisers pegged that number as between 1.5 and 2 million jobs in a January report.
So we spent billions just to have the unemployment rate go down by 1%?
What a great investment.
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Old 02-23-2010, 09:50 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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And we're going for a Jobs II bill now ?

I just wish they looked at the numbers from the first one and try something different.
That first one didn't really accomplish what it was supposed to and cost way to much for what was accomplished. And on top of that where is the funding for the continued employment of all those temps hired from the first one ?
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