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And IRS worker taking a few extra dollars out of your paycheck isn't only innocent, IT'S THE LAW.
The guard watching over the political prisoners as they are worked and starved to death is not only innocent, IT'S THE LAW.
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Most, if not all of them. Any Greek War, the Spanish Civil War, the American Revolution, the Alamo, etc
I guess you don't consider property owners "innocent." The Spainish revolutionaries sure didn't
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most founding fathers spoke out against targeting loyalists, so as long as they gave no aid and refused to quarter troops.
Well, assuming this is accurate, it still stands that a worker in the breauacracy of the government is doing at least as much as a random civilian giving "aid and quarter" to troops.
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I believe it was Jefferson who said something along the lines of "It would make us the grandest of hypocrites to persecute someone for belief."
Belief =/= actions. The founders clearly believed this.
sadly none of your "guesses" had him calling himself terrorist though
I never once called him a terrorist. I did, however, say he terrorized the people who were in that building that day. Do you deny the truth of that statement?
The guard watching over the political prisoners as they are worked and starved to death is not only innocent, IT'S THE LAW.
You're not starving and you're not a political prisoner. You're a thug, terrorist, and traitor.
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Belief =/= actions. The founders clearly believed this.
And they also believed every advantage had its tax. The rate of government oversight in personal lives and enforcement of social laws was probably more tyrannical then than it is today.
You're not starving and you're not a political prisoner. You're a thug, terrorist, and traitor.
I was a thug. I murdered innocent people in exchange for stolen money. Maybe they weren't people though, after all they aren't noble AMERICANS like you and I. Yeah, the object of war is terror so I was a terrorist as well. And yes, I have since come to oppose that which I once served, so now I suppose I am a traitor.
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And they also believed every advantage had its tax. The rate of government oversight in personal lives and enforcement of social laws was probably more tyrannical then than it is today.
I'm no apologist for the founders, you're the one who was acting as if their (hypocritical) words were some sort of gudepost.
There is no such thing as an "Enemy Combatant" he is either a Criminal or a Prisoner of War. As a POW he has rights and can't be tortured, etc etc. Then again you can hold him until the war is over and then try him for warcrimes. As a Sabatour or Criminal you try him as soon as possible
Also, Twista, you have a wonderful talent for missing the point. You appeal to law, yet I would be willing to bet that you don't find legality to be of supreme importance - that, in fact, it really does not factor into your assesments of acceptable behavior. If it did, you would have simply agreed with me that guards of state-sanctioned death camps should not be harmed and their commands should be obeyed.
Also, Twista, you have a wonderful talent for missing the point. You appeal to law, yet I would be willing to bet that you don't find legality to be of supreme importance - that, in fact, it really does not factor into your assesments of acceptable behavior. If it did, you would have simply agreed with me that guards of state-sanctioned death camps should not be harmed and their commands should be obeyed.
Please, for the benefit of everyone, do what Joe Stack did, minus hurting anyone or damaging anything.
Please, for the benefit of everyone, do what Joe Stack did, minus hurting anyone or damaging anything.
I appreciate that you are frustrated in your discussion with BAL, but wouldn't it be a better discussion if we all refrained from asking people to kill themselves?
I never once called him a terrorist. I did, however, say he terrorized the people who were in that building that day. Do you deny the truth of that statement?
semantics. implying that he was a terrorist was just as bad.
And why haven't you sounded off in the Pentagon shooting thread screaming 'terrorist" yet??
Please, for the benefit of everyone, do what Joe Stack did, minus hurting anyone or damaging anything.
That's some fine argumentation skill there. Want to do something novel and address the constant contradictions in your perspective I continue to point out? Or have you come to the end of your power to create anything resembling (for you have shown nothing which actually is) actual reasoned discourse?
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