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Old 02-28-2010, 03:37 PM
 
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Better sacrifice an innocent's life than let 10 guilty as sin to get away with capital murder...
Would this statement hold up if that particular life was your child's or your wife's or some other member of your family?
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Old 02-28-2010, 04:39 PM
 
Location: Vermont
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The death penalty should be maintained for the most heinous crimes in which we are 100% certain of guilt. If I were on a jury, I would never give a death penalty to somebody unless I was 100% sure of guilt (no doubt). I could find them guilty if I were 90% sure (reasonable doubt).
There are people who deserve the death penalty. Another thing I would like to see is a return to public executions- preferably hangings- so it could serve as a deterrent.
If you're 90% sure that the defendant is guilty the state has failed to prove its case beyond a reasonable doubt.
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Old 02-28-2010, 04:47 PM
 
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Better sacrifice an innocent's life than let 10 guilty as sin to get away with capital murder...
I certainly hope you are on a Watch List somewhere.
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Old 02-28-2010, 04:52 PM
 
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Better sacrifice an innocent's life than let 10 guilty as sin to get away with capital murder...
I could not disagree with you more on this. How would you feel if you were on death row for something you didn't do? Would you rally think "Oh well, at least I'm dying for a greater good"?

I'd rather let 1000 murderers go free than wrongfully execute an innocent. Convicting people who are innocent to prison time is bad enough, but executing an innocent person completely undermines our judicial system. Laws and courts are there to protect us, not to take innocent lives, we know for a fact that it's not infallible, and because of that, we cannot, in my opinion, risk killing innocent people.
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Old 03-01-2010, 07:23 AM
 
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If there was some way of guaranteeing that someone sentenced to LWOP would never, ever get out I would perhaps be in favor of abolishing the DP. Unfortunately, as soon as we would abolish the DP, the pro criminal groups would be after us to abolish LWOP.

Ending the country club like atmosphere in most prisons would go a long way in changing my mind also. Most prisoners live better than the average tax payer what with free cable, AC, college classes, library, free food, room and board, free health care, free legal representation ect.....

They should get three bland meals, a bed, a toilet and 8 hours of hard work a day with ZERO
privileges.
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Old 03-01-2010, 11:44 AM
 
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If there was some way of guaranteeing that someone sentenced to LWOP would never, ever get out I would perhaps be in favor of abolishing the DP. Unfortunately, as soon as we would abolish the DP, the pro criminal groups would be after us to abolish LWOP.

Ending the country club like atmosphere in most prisons would go a long way in changing my mind also. Most prisoners live better than the average tax payer what with free cable, AC, college classes, library, free food, room and board, free health care, free legal representation ect.....

They should get three bland meals, a bed, a toilet and 8 hours of hard work a day with ZERO
privileges.
I don't know about you, but any prison I've seen any footage from ain't a place I'd want to be.

And do you think three bland meals, a bed, a toilet and 8 hours of hard work with no privileges, inspire people to change? Do that, and anyone who don't serve LWOP, will commit a crime within hours of being released.

Angola (Louisiana State Pen) in it's current incarnation is probably one of the better examples of how a prison can be run.
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Old 03-01-2010, 12:27 PM
 
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Better sacrifice an innocent's life than let 10 guilty as sin to get away with capital murder...
Then sacrifice yourself. No problem, right?

Freakin insane.
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Old 03-01-2010, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Better sacrifice an innocent's life than let 10 guilty as sin to get away with capital murder...
Would you sacrifice yourself if you were wrongly convicted. Would you walk to the death chamber and give your life if you were innocent so we could execute 10 guilty ones?
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Old 03-01-2010, 01:23 PM
 
Location: MI
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The DP should be abandoned in the USA.
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Old 03-01-2010, 02:33 PM
 
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We have got things wrong in the past. I would hate tat we would execute an innocent man. Life without the possibility of parole would keep society safe. Everyday he would have to wake up in a 5x9 cell and know this was all he had for 50-60 years. And if we got it wrong it would be correctable
Even if I was innocent I'd rather be put to death before that.
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