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I agree that the American dependence on oil is unhealthy and needs to be mollified. I think a slow adjustment to higher gasoline taxes---with that money dedicated to improving public transportation and automobile efficiency efforts---would be a good way of accomplishing such a thing.
Of course, it's a lot easier for someone like me who lives in a relatively dense part of the country and is within walking distance of existing commuter rail lines and bus service. Other parts of the country are designed for car transport and there will be stressful adjustment period to a world where car transport is expensive.
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I thought anti-Obamites liked regressive taxation.
Nope. But it surely will bring our ego down to earth, and introduce us to the realities. A good start would be to kill the $18B/year in corporate welfare that is going on for oil companies.
To say that oil companies are the recipients of $18B/year in corporate welfare is a bit disingenuous, though. In 2008, for instance, ExxonMobil paid about $116B in taxes ($36.5 billion; sales-based taxes, $34.5 billion; "all other" taxes, $45.2 billion Exxon, Big Oil Profits Evil Only Until You Weigh Their Tax Bills - US News and World Report). Claiming that oil companies get "corporate welfare" is like claiming a tax cut is giving rich people money, when in reality it is just taking them slightly less. I don't think it's a fair argument to claim that oil companies pay those taxes because of their obscene profit-making, either. The ROI for oil companies is historically pretty average.
To say that oil companies are the recipients of $18B/year in corporate welfare is a bit disingenuous, though. In 2008, for instance, ExxonMobil paid about $116B in taxes ($36.5 billion; sales-based taxes, $34.5 billion; "all other" taxes, $45.2 billion Exxon, Big Oil Profits Evil Only Until You Weigh Their Tax Bills - US News and World Report). Claiming that oil companies get "corporate welfare" is like claiming a tax cut is giving rich people money, when in reality it is just taking them slightly less. I don't think it's a fair argument to claim that oil companies pay those taxes because of their obscene profit-making, either. The ROI for oil companies is historically pretty average.
Depends on how many government resources they require to secure their business.
Reading is fundamental, you'll get it someday little buddy.
I read just fine. Maybe if you made some sense, people would understand you a bit better.
From reading your other posts in this thread, I've already reached the conclusion that there's no reason to try engaging you in any sort of discussion. You're just like SLC in that you prefer to insult people rather than debate them, which is fine - it's a free country and the the mods only selectively enforce the CD ToS. As long as you can get away with it, more power to ya. In the meantime, you'll be on my ignore list. Have a nice day.
Yes, global warming is the only reason that running an entire country on oil is problematic. This isn't dumb in any way, shape, or form.
War on science continues, rage on uggabugga.
Had you bothered to peruse the link in the OP, you'd know that the entirety of the reasoning behind the claim that we need to pay 7 bucks a gallon for gas is based on 'global warming' drivel.
That is all.
Where does government get the money from? Its not freaking free.
rather than the 8% or so profit margin the oil companies operate on, the liberals would rather see them losing money and nationalize...er uh subsidze them.
Had you bothered to peruse the link in the OP, you'd know that the entirety of the reasoning behind the claim that we need to pay 7 bucks a gallon for gas is based on 'global warming' drivel.
That is all.
the leftward noodle heads would have their nirvana on earth if the prices for gasoline ans diesel fuel was jacked up so high that people freeze in the winter, the private trucking industry go out of business, and the costs of everything skyrocket, breaking the avergae family budget,.... pure progressive Nirvana.
rather than the 8% or so profit margin the oil companies operate on, the liberals would rather see them losing money and nationalize...er uh subsidze them.
I read just fine. Maybe if you made some sense, people would understand you a bit better.
From reading your other posts in this thread, I've already reached the conclusion that there's no reason to try engaging you in any sort of discussion. You're just like SLC in that you prefer to insult people rather than debate them, which is fine - it's a free country and the the mods only selectively enforce the CD ToS. As long as you can get away with it, more power to ya. In the meantime, you'll be on my ignore list. Have a nice day.
You too buddy! Thanks for adding me to the honored list and attacking various people on the forum simultaneously!
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the leftward noodle heads would have their nirvana on earth if the prices for gasoline ans diesel fuel was jacked up so high that people freeze in the winter, the private trucking industry go out of business, and the costs of everything skyrocket, breaking the avergae family budget,.... pure progressive Nirvana.
If that's your view you're not going to listen to anyone with an opposing viewpoint, so who cares. As I stated, let's subsidize it all and get gas on the government dime.
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Originally Posted by uggabugga
Had you bothered to peruse the link in the OP, you'd know that the entirety of the reasoning behind the claim that we need to pay 7 bucks a gallon for gas is based on 'global warming' drivel.
That is all.
So they're not including any costs to the court system, or military costs involved in ensuring safe shipping channels? Damn.
Had you bothered to peruse the link in the OP, you'd know that the entirety of the reasoning behind the claim that we need to pay 7 bucks a gallon for gas is based on 'global warming' drivel.
That is all.
Ya and think about this if we don't have global worming will we have global cooling? Ice age? Hmm? Maybe. I like global worming it makes the place wormer.
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