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View Poll Results: Are we a Christian nation?
Yes 90 24.26%
No 212 57.14%
To an extent 69 18.60%
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Old 07-10-2012, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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We are a nation that has many Christian people but we also have a president who stated that we are not a Christian nation.
At least the leader of this nation isn't a fool and gets it, that this is a secular nation, even with majority of its citizens belonging to one or the other sect of Christianity.

 
Old 07-10-2012, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Florida
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"""" it is the value system born out of Christian principles that made this nation great. """"


Then you have to accept that christianity caused the greed and corruption that sunk the economy and started the wars....only cowards and liars would claim the good, arrogantly brag about the good, and blame the bad on others.
Oh yes, sure, when you read the ten commandments it says to steal and be greedy.. yes.. we see that Christianity caused this..
 
Old 07-10-2012, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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The United States was and is, a Judea Christian nation - it is also a nation where ANY religion is welcome - hence our right to practice any religion we choose.
 
Old 07-10-2012, 08:02 AM
 
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Oh yes, sure, when you read the ten commandments it says to steal and be greedy.. yes.. we see that Christianity caused this..
Then, we're not a Christian nation?

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The United States was and is, a Judea Christian nation
And, WTH, is a "Judea-Christian" nation?
 
Old 07-10-2012, 08:07 AM
 
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"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven."

-Matthew 7:21


Saying the Lord's Name is not enough. A "Christian" is someone who does what Jesus commands. This is why America is not a "Christian" nation, it is also why the vast majority of Americans are not "Christian".
you are correct in the sense that many people today are not a Christian and many who profess to be Christian are not true Christians.. but that is not what the question is referring to .. Would you not say that the middle east is where the Muslim nations are.. we are not muslim. We were founded on Christian principles.. this does not mean the majority of America's population today is Christian. Far from it.. We have many churches across the nation. Not everyone who goes to church is a true Christian. We are as a whole a backsliding nation into secular beliefs and most of the population today does not follow Christ.

People celebrate Christmas- Christ's Mass but many do it secularly.. it is a tree and gifts and no spirit of Jesus's birth.
 
Old 07-10-2012, 08:14 AM
 
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you are correct in the sense that many people today are not a Christian and many who profess to be Christian are not true Christians...
It is why you'd often find me challenging people who profess to be Christians, preach religiosity and "morals" and yet leave a lot to be desired in their actions. But then, that has NOTHING to do with this topic.

Hint: Even if 100% of individual Americans were Christians, we could still be a secular nation and not a Christian one, because religion is personal. THAT was the idea at the inception of this country, and that is an idea that has been indigestible to those in defiance because they see religion not as a personal belief but as that of a collective... as in collectivism.
 
Old 07-10-2012, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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And, WTH, is a "Judea-Christian" nation?
Sorry about the spelling mistake - JUDEO
 
Old 07-10-2012, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Lubec, ME
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you are correct in the sense that many people today are not a Christian and many who profess to be Christian are not true Christians.. but that is not what the question is referring to .. Would you not say that the middle east is where the Muslim nations are.. we are not muslim. We were founded on Christian principles.. this does not mean the majority of America's population today is Christian. Far from it.. We have many churches across the nation. Not everyone who goes to church is a true Christian. We are as a whole a backsliding nation into secular beliefs and most of the population today does not follow Christ.

People celebrate Christmas- Christ's Mass but many do it secularly.. it is a tree and gifts and no spirit of Jesus's birth.

A nation is a group of people - a community and a body. Corporate sin exists, if the body is wholly fully of greedy liars the nation is not "Christian".

This nation is full of greed and liars and deceivers - it is not "Christian". Since I believe it was about 80% of the population would claim to be a sect of Christianity, then IMO at least 80% of the people who are greedy, liars, and deceivers in this country would make the claim that they are "Christian". With such overwhelming numbers, why would anyone find false justification to continue to make claims this land is "Christian"? Why would a "Christian" choose to water down Jesus' message, pillage the Scriptures, and promote the garbage character by claiming we are a "Christian" nation? It fully discredits the Gospel. Sad.

Just the same as God withdrew from the Israelites when they fell into sin, so He has no problem doing the same in America. Since I believe America has always been a "secular" nation, I have no interest in creating deception or spin on it.


I wouldn't call any Middle Eastern nation anything. Muslims are no different than "Christians" - they both distort the message of their religion en masse. I'm not sure why "Christians" will take every foolish and radical Muslim and use them as a poster-boy for their people and land. Perhaps it is the same reason they use every foolish and deceiving "Christian" and use them as a poster-boy for this land. It would an exhibit in the foolish nature of a "Christian" who is not who they claim to be. Wise believers can discern good and bad fruit. Thank God for the wise.
 
Old 07-10-2012, 08:17 AM
 
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Sorry about the spelling mistake - JUDEO
Okay, then, WTH is a "JUDEO-Christian" nation? While at it, are we the only one?
 
Old 07-10-2012, 08:18 AM
 
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Okay, then, WTH is a "JUDEO-Christian" nation? While at it, are we the only one?
The earliest use of the term "Judeo-Christian" in the historical sense dates to 1829 in the missionary journal of Joseph Wolff,[1] and before that as "Judeo Christian" in a letter from Alexander M'Caul dated October 17, 1821.[2] The former appears in discussions of theories of the emergence of Christianity, and both are used with a different sense from the one common today. "Judeo-Christian" here referred to Jewish converts to Christianity.[3]

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