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The "market" that Jones is talking about is the green energy market. Since those industries are subsidized by the government, it's not exactly a "free market" situation.
How 'bout we let the market decide? If Americans want green products, then those companies will flourish. They won't need fed dollars, and regulations that "nudge" Americans into something they should have a choice about.
Yeah... and what say you of the oil market that's subsidized by not only tax dollars but the blood of American soldiers... and the coal market...
I find it hilarious that people wil defend to their death the status quo simply because it's the status quo, ignoring the fact that massive tax dollars go to protecting the industries you delude yourselve into thinking are "free markets".
The amount of federal investment in green energy is miniscule compared to that of fossil fuels. Add on top of that the fact that we can't continue to pollute and expand our population the way we are globally due to toxic local air where there is no regulation for clean burning, and you find yourself right back where we began:
Van Jones was advocating for a market-based solution to not only the energy crisis, but also endemic poverty. Yet, people crucified him because he challenged their status quo. Nothing more, nothing less.
THEY can't attack the message because they fear that to read the message may cause them to become less liberal in thinking and they can't stand to take a chance.
Let the record stand that when I analyzed the very videos you asked us to watch of your messiah, and proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that Glenn Beck's stance on education is absolutely, unequivocally, false - you could not respond.
I gave you ample opportunities, little Roy. I asked over and over and over again for a response. All you could do was change the subject - start rambling about commies and libraries (yes, a public institution dating back thousands upon thousands upon thousands of years), trying to dismiss me by throwing me into this ideological camp or that one so you could write me off as an "other" and wouldn't have to engage with my vastly superior intellect, yet never once addressing my rebuttal to your claims.
I want you to remember this moment because you keep watching Beck's charlatan antics and ignoring any reasonable response to him - only falling back on this false myth you have that people who disagree with Beck's beliefs can only attack the messenger (as you tiredly state above).
I attacked the message. I absolutely destroyed the message. Now stop posting about Beck and start thinking for yourself before it's too late. Put that education to use!
All they do is attack Beck on a personal level. He's crazy, he cries, he's a conspiracy guy, he's an ex-alcoholic.....blah blah.....
But they never debate the issues he brings up. Why? Because they are true! So they use the Saul Alinski method.....denegrate the messenger, marginalize him so that no one will listen.
Glenn Beck indulges in dramatic images, suited to entertainment mass media.
But the "fall" I see, is the fall of the republican form of government, and the rise of the People's Democratic Socialist Republic of America.
Too many people have been indoctrinated and programmed to accept "the line", and ignore facts. I was in my late 30's before I had a clue that something was not quite right. Only after actually reading the law, did I get an inkling. And in many candid conversations with the "in" folks - lawyers, judges, etc, did I see the real problem.
In simplest terms, American government has two jobs: 1. Secure rights, 2. Govern those who consent.
From all indications, once consent has been given, job #1 is waived. (See: conscription of the militia, and their obligation to train, fight, and die, if necessary, on command.)
So that leaves us the task of determining our substantive rights that were waived by consent, and withdrawing that consent.
If the law on the books is any guide, the dearth of mention of those non-liable people is a tantalizing clue.
I can find occasional references to the inviolable and sacred rights to private property, natural and personal liberty, and the sovereignty of the individual / inhabitant / national, but they are few and far between.
Most volumes of law deal with citizens, residents, their real and personal property (estate), socialists, bankrupts, and other status criminals.
Without consenting subjects and their wealth, what would government do?
Job #1?
That doesn't take a multi trillion "dollar" budget. In fact, 87 - 95% of the budget would be gone.
So I infer that their game plan is to eradicate the foundation of the people's sovereignty, so that they can better implement their benevolent tyranny... without bothering with consent.
[quote=roysoldboy;13177841]Today Beck took progressives who have come to control public education to task and reported too much about them for them to keep going if enough people see his show. Now I am challenging, again, all you liberals or progressives to watch his show on the website that carries it and then tell me all the untruths he told. It would be fun jawing with any of you who really think what he said was nothing but lies.
Pay special attention to the part about Generation WE when you watch it. That is the generation that was born after 1978 and have all been told all kinds of crap by the teachers' unions, other unions and many other progressive groups.
Well I have been listening to Beck and I have also done some investigations on what he has been telling us. So far as his history lessons go, I have not found fault with any of the information he has supplied. I found the information on the Web, and in the local library.
Beck to me anyway, brings on some much needed critical thinking as our Government has not given us both sides of an issue to consider.
I find our mainstream media, is very one sided and it is nice to have a rebuttal.
Let me tell you that the people of Kansas have finally awakened to what the Legislature has been doing to them for many years. That being taking more and more of the finance of schools into its hands and taking that same thing away from the school districts, themselves. After the feds started supplying more and more to the states that led to them not taxing enough to take care of the situation. Now they don't get the fed money like they once did and they don't have the money to pay for what they need to do and the districts are left holding the bag. Well this leads to curriculum shrinkage since they just can't pay for all they need to do.
It has been one piece of Pelosi after another and led to one major district in our neighborhood wanting to close half their schools. Kansas City has come to that point and money is the reason.
California is so broke that the rest of us will have to bail them out and surely they can't provide schools without that bailout. Politicians have been doing what looked good to the people and are now forced to crap on the people.
It's pretty obvious that the alinskyites here are as terrified of Beck as they are of Palin...and of the truth, for that matter.
Some of these alinskyites have some very inflated egos and think much more of themselves than they are deserving of.
Typical.
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