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Old 03-06-2010, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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What about the many Democrats who making the same claim about Iraq's WMD?
Of course there were Dems that supported the Oct, 2002 resolution authorizing use of force. Senate - 77 to 23, House by 296 to 133. The majority of Americans supported it. There were a lot of people taken in by the lies. What's your point?
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Old 03-06-2010, 01:50 PM
 
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What about the many Democrats who making the same claim about Iraq's WMD?
The Democrats and Republicans both were victims of faulty intelligence that was perpetuated by our intelligence agencies. Here's how I think the blame works out:


30% - Intelligence agencies. They ****ed up.
20% - Democrats. They went along with the Republicans without asking many questions.
50% - Republicans. They used WMD, examples of Saddam's brutality, and sentiments from 9/11 as a rallying cry to engage in a regime change that quite clearly had underlying geo-political and strategic goals.
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Old 03-06-2010, 01:56 PM
 
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How would you characterize the phony WMD story that the administration planted with Judith Miller and that then became a front-page article in the New York Times? Did that perhaps cross the line would you say?
Not familiar with that whole incident. Wouldn't surprise me though.
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Old 03-06-2010, 01:58 PM
 
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What really got me boiling about the whole Iraq thing, was 2008. Bush and Cheney interviews. I am quite sure there are thousands of US families that view what happened and is still happening, with something other than a "so what" attitude.
Ah, one from Bush & Cheney's Greatest Hits. I always liked the one where Bush tries to dismiss the Lancet/Hopkins survey showing 600,000 dead in Iraq (versus his own estimate of 30,000) by saying that he understood the methodlogy was faulty, when at the same time, the administration was touting a report showing that life expectancy in Afghanistan had increased that was done by exactly the same investigators using exactly the same methodology. All BS all the time from these clowns, and the tradition is often carried forward here...
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Old 03-06-2010, 02:00 PM
 
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CIA Probe Finds Secret Pentagon Group Manipulated Intelligence on Iraqi Threat
The Free Press -- Independent News Media - War in Iraq
Lies of Bush - Iraq Lies to go to War
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Old 03-06-2010, 02:10 PM
 
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The U.S. government certainly is not a saint in this entire matter.
Did anybody think the CIA was going to let dozens of people go off to wander around freely inside Iraq without having some of its own people embedded in there somewhere?
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Old 03-06-2010, 02:19 PM
 
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New to me? Of course not, hence the dates.

New to many liberals? Yes... you never hear them refer to those quotes at all. They have no clue whatsoever what the Dems said about Iraq's WMDs during the Clinton administration.
Piffle. Right-wingers have been blindly copying and pasting those quotes to no actual effect for years. If you'd crawled out of a cave and gone onto the internet for the first time last week, you would have seen them already. You've got no case. Neither did Bush. So he invented one.
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Old 03-06-2010, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Of course there were Dems that supported the Oct, 2002 resolution authorizing use of force. Senate - 77 to 23, House by 296 to 133. The majority of Americans supported it. There were a lot of people taken in by the lies. What's your point?
The point is that is wasn't "lies."
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Old 03-06-2010, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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CIA Probe Finds Secret Pentagon Group Manipulated Intelligence on Iraqi Threat
The Free Press -- Independent News Media - War in Iraq
Lies of Bush - Iraq Lies to go to War
Are you really serious with your 2nd "source?" Lol.
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Old 03-06-2010, 02:39 PM
 
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Would you prefer to take Pelosi's and Reid's words as truth?
These quotes are taken out of context and the date is important to note as it refers to Desert Fox which did not include invading and occupying Iraq. Why should it have?...Clinton did not have a grudge against Saddam because of his daddy and Gore did not have secret meetings with big oil. The bottom line is Bush lied as Cheney pulled the strings.

snopes.com: Weapons of Mass Destruction Quotes
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