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Old 03-09-2010, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Ugh. I know they're inevitable, but those images are so revealing - I hate these. I'd just be totally embarrassed the whole time. I do not want some TSA dude seeing me naked!
I have heard repeatedly that there are separate scanners for men and women, monitored by a person of your same sex. So it would actually be some "dudette" seeing you "blurry", for a few seconds, in a long line of hundreds of others, none of which would register in her memory after 5 minutes. A lot less than anybody sees in a typical locker room, if you use those. Also, these folks will see hundreds of people going through there per day, after the first few (if that), the "novelty" wears off and all they're doing is looking for banned items. The last thing they'll notice, or care about, is your body.

People who see naked people all day (doctors, nurses, gym attendants, etc) can tell you that it REALLY is not something they even think about--just a day's work.
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Old 03-09-2010, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Durm
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I have heard repeatedly that there are separate scanners for men and women, monitored by a person of your same sex. So it would actually be some "dudette" seeing you "blurry", for a few seconds, in a long line of hundreds of others, none of which would register in her memory after 5 minutes. A lot less than anybody sees in a typical locker room, if you use those. Also, these folks will see hundreds of people going through there per day, after the first few (if that), the "novelty" wears off and all they're doing is looking for banned items. The last thing they'll notice, or care about, is your body.

People who see naked people all day (doctors, nurses, gym attendants, etc) can tell you that it REALLY is not something they even think about--just a day's work.
Well, that's a little bit of a relief...but the TSA workers are nowhere in the same league as doctors. The novelty will last quite a bit longer for them, if it ever wears off.
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Old 03-24-2010, 01:37 PM
 
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I can't believe the willingness of everyone on this thread to submit to a total invasion of your personal body by the TSA. They have no right to force you to submit your naked body to them with the threat of not being able to fly. What kind of freedom is that? I for one, will take the pat down before I ever let my child or wife go through a low level radiation chamber, revealing their naked body to some government employee. Where does it stop? I don't care what sex the person is monitoring the machine.
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Old 03-24-2010, 05:32 PM
 
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I can't believe the willingness of everyone on this thread to submit to a total invasion of your personal body by the TSA. They have no right to force you to submit your naked body to them with the threat of not being able to fly. What kind of freedom is that? I for one, will take the pat down before I ever let my child or wife go through a low level radiation chamber, revealing their naked body to some government employee. Where does it stop? I don't care what sex the person is monitoring the machine.
well it hasn't taken long for the 1st scandal involving the new machines
no surprise that it's happened at Londons heathrow Airport either

Heathrow security worker quizzed over 'naked' body scan of colleague | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1260222/Heathrow-security-worker-quizzed-naked-body-scan-colleague.html - broken link)
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Old 03-24-2010, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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They have no right to force you to submit your naked body to them with the threat of not being able to fly. What kind of freedom is that?
And where does it say you have a "right" to fly? Nobody is forcing you to go through it. If you don't like it don't fly.
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Old 03-24-2010, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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I can't believe the willingness of everyone on this thread to submit to a total invasion of your personal body by the TSA. They have no right to force you to submit your naked body to them with the threat of not being able to fly. What kind of freedom is that? I for one, will take the pat down before I ever let my child or wife go through a low level radiation chamber, revealing their naked body to some government employee. Where does it stop? I don't care what sex the person is monitoring the machine.
The US is practically the most uptight non-Muslim country there is about nudity. For goodness sakes, everybody knows what a male or female body looks like. What they see on the screen is a blurry, B&W image, with pressure to get people through as fast as possible. Even if world's biggest perv would not find this job particularly "fulfilling".

I am naked in front of dozens of strangers every time I shower at the gym, and I don't think twice about it. These scanners are much, MUCH less invasive and they can't even see your face. I truly cannot believe people are so uptight about this.
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Old 03-24-2010, 07:35 PM
 
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There is a sobering article today about how the terrorist are beginning to use
explosive breast implants for suicide bombers to use.

No ... body scanners do not bother me if it makes my family safer...
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Old 03-24-2010, 08:02 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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The US is practically the most uptight non-Muslim country there is about nudity. For goodness sakes, everybody knows what a male or female body looks like. What they see on the screen is a blurry, B&W image, with pressure to get people through as fast as possible. Even if world's biggest perv would not find this job particularly "fulfilling".

I am naked in front of dozens of strangers every time I shower at the gym, and I don't think twice about it. These scanners are much, MUCH less invasive and they can't even see your face. I truly cannot believe people are so uptight about this.
Francois, for many of us, this isn't about nudity! It's about the right to privacy, and the right to be free from unreasonable searches of our persons and papers.

underPSI, I would say that I absolutely have a right to travel by air and by land. Freedom to travel is a basic right. Yes, when in an airport you expect some security. However you need to draw the line somewhere. How many bad guys have these scanners caught, so far?
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Old 03-24-2010, 08:22 PM
 
Location: Cary
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The full body scanners are necessary and long overdue. In fact, it's absurd that we're limiting airport security to technologies like full body scanners, which are really just half measures.

We need to move to the next level of airport safety and implement full strip searches and full body cavity examinations. You wouldn't even have to do it to every passenger. Maybe every fifth passenger or so. If it makes my family safer, I'm all for it.

Cue the objections from all the uptight U.S. puritans who think their naked bodies are so special...
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Old 03-24-2010, 08:52 PM
 
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Well, hopefully the scanners will catch more than the TSA is catching while staring at their baggage screening screens. I flew to San Diego and back a few weeks ago with a swiss army knife in my bag. Didn't know it was there until my layover on the way home. I was stunned and quite bothered by the oversight in both Raleigh and Diego.

Does our constitution have "freedom to travel by air" stated in there somewhere? Missed that amendment. When you get into a vehicle owned by someone other than yourself or some corporation other than your own, you follow the rules set forth by that individual or company or body overseeing that corporation. Don't like it? Buy your own plane.
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