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Old 03-10-2010, 10:16 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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Educational attainment? Canada is quite open to immigrants from around the world. At the same time, they don't have some of the freedoms we have. For example, one can't pray from the pulpit against homosexuality, regardless of what in written in the Bible. Also, their laws are quite oppressive in relation to guns, as well as criminal background of any kind (including misdemeanors) and traveling through Canada.
Not to mention criticizing the wrong people. In Canada that's a hate crime.

The FreedomSite Blog: Mark Steyn comments about Human Rights legislation in Canada
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Old 03-10-2010, 10:57 PM
 
Location: Hades
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Not to mention criticizing the wrong people. In Canada that's a hate crime.

The FreedomSite Blog: Mark Steyn comments about Human Rights legislation in Canada
Yeah, from what I've heard (sorry, no definitive links to back it up!), is that in Canada they are rather "intolerant" of actions that will rile the public to hatred or violence. I call that Common Sense. America will call it restriction of Freedom of Speech. So I dunno, allowing the KKK to speak wherever they want is valuable in the whole scheme of things, b/c of freedom of speech. I don't agree. I would rather live in a country that doesn't tolerate this (0r any other hate speech meausre) over one that does. I understand that in this respect I am in the minority in America, but I would like to ask, what have we accomplished by allowing hate groups to march and voice their thoughts?

Yes, Canada is more restritctive in letting these people "march." Why do we see it as an issue of "free speech" while they see it as common sense?
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Old 03-10-2010, 11:09 PM
 
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This is further proof that America is not so liberal country as many right-wingers love to complain about. I been knew Canada was more tolerable. Canada also has a higher percentage of people who are not in a religion and don't believe a god exist.

Canada also has a growing influance of islam ,one province is even considering sharia law . Last i heard they don't like your immorality at all .
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Old 03-11-2010, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Canada
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The Canadians turned to socialism in the 1980's under Pierre Trudeau. It's a bit early in the process to take a victory lap. Appying the same philosophy--"taking care of the least of us"--the Soviets took 70 years to drive their nation into the ditch. Give the Canadians time. And as far as being peaceful world citizens it's easy to yell 'Peace, peace' when you know someone has your back when push comes to shove. The Canadians and the rest of western Europe have for over half a century enjoyed the luxury of having a strong United States keep their peace. Maybe if we had withdrawn to our own borders after WWII and let the Europeans deal with the Soviet aggression they might have a different understanding of "peace."
IMHO, well said... though I think the "going to socialism" thing happened in late 70s (Trudeau was PM from 68 to 84 [with a tiny break in 79-80])...

there is a lot less freedom in Canada, and I would say that the more liberal attitude is at least in part related to the fact that the gov't will bail people out... take the whole "baby out of wedlock" scenario... the gov't will provide subsidized place to live, welfare, daycare, medical care, schooling... I find it very rare that people tie the "what I get" with "where does it come from originally", so it's very easy to think that you get whatever you need without thinking that somebody (or possibly you at some point) will have to work for it for about 5-6 months out of every year...
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