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Old 03-12-2010, 05:37 PM
 
Location: South Bay
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which generation is that? the baby boomers? weren't they the most productive generation in the history of the world?
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Old 03-12-2010, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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I think you'll find that the majority of Atheists don't care. I certainly don't, neither does my boyfriend or any of my friends.

I just don't say the pledge. I stand up and that's all.

If religious people need to try and force people to say 'god' so they can publicly validate their belief system, that's on them not me.
You should stand and be silent. I have respect for the flag of this country but like you I think God has no business in it. We are a secular nation and the pledge should reflect that fact.
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Old 03-12-2010, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Up in the air
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You should stand and be silent. I have respect for the flag of this country but like you I think God has no business in it. We are a secular nation and the pledge should reflect that fact.
That's exactly what I do.

I was actually asked to leave class in High School multiple times because I wouldn't say the pledge.
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Old 03-12-2010, 05:58 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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That's exactly what I do.

I was actually asked to leave class in High School multiple times because I wouldn't say the pledge.
They cannot force you to say it. In fact they should state that it is strictly voluntary. We are not Nazi Germany- yet anyway.
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Old 03-12-2010, 06:04 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Why do you want to take so much pride in the history of a nation that was built on the back of genocide, slavery and the outright theft of land from Mexico? I think that those people were pathetic myself. We need to move in a more European direction.


It was the land of my Father's pride. The land where my Mother died.

Like no other. Especially anything Europe had, or has to offer.
You want 75% of your earnings going to the government, like Europe and the UK?
Well, you might as well be a slave, then.
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Old 03-12-2010, 06:05 PM
 
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Why do you want to take so much pride in the history of a nation that was built on the back of genocide, slavery and the outright theft of land from Mexico? I think that those people were pathetic myself. We need to move in a more European direction.
LOL... that was a European direction. You've aged since then.
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Old 03-12-2010, 08:41 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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That's exactly what I do.

I was actually asked to leave class in High School multiple times because I wouldn't say the pledge.
You could have said the Pledge and omitted, "Under God". What was the problem with that?
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Old 03-12-2010, 08:47 PM
 
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dang right wing trying to push their hateful agenda on all the atheists
This was a matter of an atheist trying to push his agenda on everyone else. Get your facts straight.
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Old 03-12-2010, 09:21 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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This was a matter of an atheist trying to push his agenda on everyone else. Get your facts straight.

His? Madeline Murry O`Hair... Your right, his.
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Old 03-13-2010, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Up in the air
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You could have said the Pledge and omitted, "Under God". What was the problem with that?

I don't pick and choose. For me, it's all or nothing involving the pledge. If I omit one thing, is the rest of it all that meaningful?
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