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Old 03-17-2010, 12:06 AM
 
Location: Earth
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First, assertions without back up are devoid of value. Of course, you can back it up later, but there's a dim chance of that.

The term "life" does not appear in Medterms. It does however, in Medilexicon, where it is defined as:

1. Vitality, the essential condition of being alive; the state of existence characterized by such functions as metabolism, growth, reproduction, adaptation, and response to stimuli.
2. Living organisms such as animals and plants.

Don't see anything about "once born" there!
Disconnect it from the mother and you'll see a parasitic relationship; it will die.
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Old 03-17-2010, 12:24 AM
 
Location: Tha 6th Bourough
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it is very simple not everyone is you, nor do they share your values in life. you can't make people tow the line. education would go a long way in making people more responsible. as would wide spread free birth control. but the facts remain, pregnancy happens, protected or not, responsible or not. you want a 14 yr. old raising a baby? you think "she made her bed now she can lay in it" you willing to support the child w/your taxes till it is 18 as the mom is too scattered to feed and house the baby?

actually yeah...the 14 year old should raise the kid....or put it up for adoption. I would rather support the kid with my taxes than to support the killing of the kid
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Old 03-17-2010, 12:25 AM
 
Location: Tha 6th Bourough
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TMI baby.

But maybe you should be trying to get other guys to emulate you if abortion bothers you that much. I'm guessing a 26 year old male virgin can't really get into the mind of a 15 year old sexually active female.

Maybe not but maybe i had urges growing up when i hit puberty... i have pics up on my page if u wanna see... i could have given into sex because i know im attractive ...at least a lil bit ...lol...but i decided to make a decision with my body no matter what situation "popped up"...lol....oh and i never said guys werent pigs either man..i just disagree with the killing of any living human baby in any form whether they are a fetus or newborn
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Old 03-17-2010, 01:20 AM
 
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in this case at least the child has a "chance" that someone will love him

keep your legs closed if u yourself cant handle the ability God gave you to create a child inside of u..women are lucky in that aspect...they have an ability to say when and who they want to open thier legs for to become tha father of their child..
surely, the flaw in your sentence does not need to be pointed out
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Men dont have that ability so a woman should be more responsible knowing how her biology works...no one is saying that there aren't duesch bag dead beat dads out here...im saying a woman has control of her body
Well done!!! let's keep it that way
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Old 03-17-2010, 01:36 AM
 
Location: California
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Maybe not but maybe i had urges growing up when i hit puberty... i have pics up on my page if u wanna see... i could have given into sex because i know im attractive ...at least a lil bit ...lol...but i decided to make a decision with my body no matter what situation "popped up"...lol....oh and i never said guys werent pigs either man..i just disagree with the killing of any living human baby in any form whether they are a fetus or newborn
No...I don't "wanna see" anything. You seem more concerned about people beliving you could have had sex than you ought.

You can disagree with anything you like, but as long as you don't impregnate anyone abortion will never be something you have to worry about. Other peope will live with their own decisions and mistakes.
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Old 03-17-2010, 01:44 AM
 
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I find it funny how so many "pro-lifers" are very much into wars of aggression or even just for resources. Apparently, only fetal life is sacred...because it involves chastizing women for having sex.
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Old 03-17-2010, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Duluth, Minnesota, USA
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Disconnect it from the mother and you'll see a parasitic relationship; it will die.
Yes. And that's precisely why abortion should be illegal. Because it kills human life (parasitic is irrelevant to the question...and even born babies and young children have virtually the same relationship to their parents, always needing them around).
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Old 03-17-2010, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Duluth, Minnesota, USA
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I find it funny how so many "pro-lifers" are very much into wars of aggression or even just for resources. Apparently, only fetal life is sacred...because it involves chastizing women for having sex.
I wonder how people can think this. It's now about chastising women's sexual activity. In fact, a lot of men actually are the ones pressuring their pregnant mates to have abortions. It's about human life. And studies have shown that women are equally, or even more pro-life than men.

Unfortunately, the party in the US representing the pro-life element also represents the pro-war element, so I think that is why many pro-lifers also tend to be bellicose. However, war isn't necessarily morally evil; whether or not a country should go to war can often be disagreed on by right-thinking people. Abortion, however, because it kills an innocent infant in the womb, is a certain evil.
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Old 03-17-2010, 08:42 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Yes. And that's precisely why abortion should be illegal. Because it kills human life (parasitic is irrelevant to the question...and even born babies and young children have virtually the same relationship to their parents, always needing them around).
Nope, a baby can survive with the support of any person. A baby can survive with the support of artificial nutrition. A FETUS cannot survive without being attached to one woman only.

Just because you believe it to be a life, doesn't make that a fact. If you believe a fetus to be a human life, then I suggest you don't have an abortion. Until it can survive outside of the womb, it is a part of an already living woman's body, and it is her choice to decide how to handle the pregnancy.
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Old 03-17-2010, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Geneva, IL
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Unfortunately, the party in the US representing the pro-life element also represents the pro-war element, so I think that is why many pro-lifers also tend to be bellicose. However, war isn't necessarily morally evil; whether or not a country should go to war can often be disagreed on by right-thinking people. Abortion, however, because it kills an innocent infant in the womb, is a certain evil.
I find it very hard to understand how you can believe that abortion is so evil, but the loss of innocent lives during war is justifiable. Makes no sense to me.
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