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Old 03-15-2010, 12:23 PM
 
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Is this Obama's way of going "Line by Lline" to make sure he sacks America?

I dare anybody supporting Obama to come in here and refute these line items in HIS own Stimu-lies Bil
could you rephrase that? It doesnt make sense.
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Old 03-15-2010, 12:27 PM
 
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Honestly, I didn't check it out at all. All I did was post EXACTLY what was written on the page. They were the ones that questioned it's legitimacy, and that's why they wrote "As with others, I ask that visitors provide any information they have to prove or disprove the author or the content. My hope is that people will see the “content” and pay less attention to the author of the e-mail. I don’t feel that it matters to any great length who wrote it, what matters is, whether or not the information is factual."

But after reading what snopes and politifact says (which BTW, I definately don't trust to begin with), they say that some of it is "false", but they also say some is true or partially true. And also, they give they're own spin on what each one means. So ........................................

So, take it as you will!!!
Why on earth would you pass on something that its own distributors admit is garbage?

what dont you believe about the snopes or politifact refutations, and why? And why do you right wingers call unpleasant facts "spin"?
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Old 03-15-2010, 12:28 PM
 
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But anything posted by YOU, we should somehow respect?

get real. if you can refute the ACTUAL line items, then do so, Obamabot.

Its apparent that you have not taken the time to read the bill or research anything that was posted for accuracy, but instead responded too and go by someone else interpretation. That has been the problem with this back and forth in a nutshell.
Then to top it off, instead of discussing the email as well as the factual information as an adult, you decided to resort to childish name calling. No wondering those IDIOTS in Washington aren't getting anything done.
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Old 03-15-2010, 12:29 PM
 
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sure, YOU'RE FK'D

clear enough?
Uh, no. Pretend to be a grownup -- think of your dad -- and try again.
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Old 03-15-2010, 12:29 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Honestly, I didn't check it out at all. All I did was post EXACTLY what was written on the page. They were the ones that questioned it's legitimacy, and that's why they wrote "As with others, I ask that visitors provide any information they have to prove or disprove the author or the content. My hope is that people will see the “content†and pay less attention to the author of the e-mail. I don’t feel that it matters to any great length who wrote it, what matters is, whether or not the information is factual."

But after reading what snopes and politifact says (which BTW, I definately don't trust to begin with), they say that some of it is "false", but they also say some is true or partially true. And also, they give they're own spin on what each one means. So ........................................

So, take it as you will!!!
Why would you post something without checking to see if it was true?

How can you not "trust" politifact when they debunk it with the actual written legislation? You "trust" a chain email more than actual thought out research?
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Old 03-15-2010, 12:31 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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But anything posted by YOU, we should somehow respect?

get real. if you can refute the ACTUAL line items, then do so, Obamabot.
The links in the Politifact article refute the line items.

Factcheck also refutes the line items.

Twenty-six Lies About H.R. 3200 | FactCheck.org

Only 4 are accurate.
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Old 03-15-2010, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Inis Fada
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No wondering those IDIOTS in Washington aren't getting anything done.
I've highlighted the primary problem behind the bill
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Old 03-15-2010, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Inis Fada
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The links in the Politifact article refute the line items.

Factcheck also refutes the line items.

Twenty-six Lies About H.R. 3200 | FactCheck.org

Only 4 are accurate.
I am not a big fan of Factcheck seeing as Obama had ties to Annenberg Public Policy Center and would love to find something a little more removed from our President in order to see these points refuted.
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Old 03-15-2010, 12:35 PM
 
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Ah, rationing already happens.
The rationing under nationalized healthcare will be different. Currently, one can still choose to pay out of pocket for proceedures not covered under insurance. Under nationalized haelthcare the government determines what treatment it will allow doctors/hospitals to give.
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Old 03-15-2010, 12:36 PM
 
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How exactly was this a "shock to NBC"?
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