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Old 03-16-2010, 12:03 PM
 
Location: The Great State of Texas, Finally!
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Our shortage of doctors mostly has to do with an artificial barrier.
Currently there is a cap on the number of doctors the United States we can produce.

We also lose out on doctors because the cost of medical school is so high. There is no reason we can't expand the program where the government forgives student loans in exchange for working in a certain area for a few years.

To get more general practitioners (which we need more of), the government can arrange to pay for the person's medical training and give them a bonus of say $50-75K a year. Sure it won't completely close the gap between specialists and general practitioners but it's a start.
And where do you think this government money is coming from? The tooth fairy? WE ALREADY ARE SPENDING MONEY WE DON'T HAVE. Why are you people always looking for a handout?

BTW, it is easier for this country to hire medical professionals (RNs, GPs etc) from countries such as the Philippines and India, which is currently happening, in order to fill the shortage we CURRENTLY have, not to mention the one that will take place once Obamacare comes into play.
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Old 03-16-2010, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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And where do you think this government money is coming from? The tooth fairy? WE ALREADY ARE SPENDING MONEY WE DON'T HAVE. Why are you people always looking for a handout?

BTW, it is easier for this country to hire medical professionals (RNs, GPs etc) from countries such as the Philippines and India, which is currently happening, in order to fill the shortage we CURRENTLY have, not to mention the one that will take place once Obamacare comes into play.

I'm not looking for a handout. There is no reason our taxes can't provide this. We're too busy wasting money on two useless wars and giving subsidies to companies that don't need them. We're letting the rich game the tax system and have all sorts of tax shelters.
It's possible to do these things once you end the two wars, raise taxes (and they need to be raised...), and eliminate all these corporate giveaways.

Funny I don't see the right-wingers denouncing all the little corporate giveaways.

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Old 03-16-2010, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Funny I don't see the right-wingers denouncing all the little corporate giveaways.

Corporate Welfare Queens - Democratic Underground
I am not a right winger, I am a constitutionalist

and I do complain all the time

acorn is a corporation and on the welfare faucet
the dnc and rnc are corporations



you say 'useless' wars...would you rather alquade hit us again????

I do realize you are young, but please have a little common sense...please

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There is no reason our taxes can't provide this.
yes there is

look at the numbers the more costly medicare or even the less costly medicaid....go ahead look at the numbers

we spend 300 BILLION dollars on mediciad...to cover (at 100%) about 30 million (some say 25 million some say 35 million).....transfer that number to 320 million people (our population) the cost would be about 3 TRILLION A YEAR
we spend 500 BILLION dollars on medicare(the more costly seniors) to cover about 40 million seniors....transfer that number to cover the 320 million people the cost would be 4 TRILLION to partially cover

see the point...no matter how you slice it,, you are looking at at least 2 trillion to possible 4 trillion A YEAR.......divide by the 120 millin tax payers and you are looking at an ANNUAL TAX BILL of 20,000-30,000 PER TAXPAYER.........that's 3-5 times what you make purple



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We're letting the rich game the tax system
no more than the poor....47% of americans pay ZERO in taxes...almost all under 50k a year pay zero in ferderal income tax.......I make 60k and pay ZERO in federal income tax....do pay into medicare and SS whuich I will never see (they are insolvent)...get killed in state and local though, too
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Old 03-16-2010, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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don'cha know. . . americans are and have the very best of everything. That's why we are so "insecure" that we have to believe we are and have the best of everything. very very sad. . . .
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Old 03-16-2010, 02:26 PM
 
Location: between Ath,GR & Mia,FL...
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Another antiamerican thread...

Go elsewhere to vomit your antiam poison...
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Old 03-16-2010, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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NOT anti-american. . . anti - idiocy!
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Old 03-16-2010, 02:33 PM
 
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The system is not great, in my opinion. It hasn't been since the Nixon era when HMOs and PPOs were pushed upon is, thereby severing the doctor/patient direct link, especially the breaking of the financial link.

And for those who want to flame me as being a socialist or whatnot, maybe you should listen to Ron Paul's (a doctor himself who practiced medicine before the Nixon era) take on the situation. I don't agree with him 100% on all points, but he really nails certain things, like identifying when the doctor-patient link was (mostly) broken and how that has factored into the mess we see today.
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Old 03-16-2010, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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The system is not great, in my opinion. It hasn't been since the Nixon era when HMOs and PPOs were pushed upon is, thereby severing the doctor/patient direct link, especially the breaking of the financial link.

And for those who want to flame me as being a socialist or whatnot, maybe you should listen to Ron Paul's (a doctor himself who practiced medicine before the Nixon era) take on the situation. I don't agree with him 100% on all points, but he really nails certain things, like identifying when the doctor-patient link was (mostly) broken and how that has factored into the mess we see today.
thank you. . . rep to you.
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Old 03-16-2010, 02:38 PM
 
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Another antiamerican thread...

Go elsewhere to vomit your antiam poison...
Want to know what anti-American is? Not wanting to help his fellow Americans when they are in need. THAT is anti-American.
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Old 03-16-2010, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Clermont Fl
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I'm not looking for a handout. There is no reason our taxes can't provide this. We're too busy wasting money on two useless wars and giving subsidies to companies that don't need them. We're letting the rich game the tax system and have all sorts of tax shelters.
It's possible to do these things once you end the two wars, raise taxes (and they need to be raised...), and eliminate all these corporate giveaways.

Funny I don't see the right-wingers denouncing all the little corporate giveaways.

Corporate Welfare Queens - Democratic Underground
No handout a single payer system makes me pay for your healthcare true
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