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View Poll Results: Should Hawaii ignore requests for President Obama's birth certificate?
Yes 31 62.00%
No 17 34.00%
Not sure 2 4.00%
Voters: 50. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-17-2010, 06:08 PM
 
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They can't produce a copy, because it doesn't exist. Obama was merely deemed to have been born.
Good one.
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Old 03-17-2010, 06:14 PM
 
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They can't produce a copy, because it doesn't exist. Obama was merely deemed to have been born.
His birth certificate has his place of birth on it. The same one that he released to the public. If you question the authenticity, too bad, you don't matter. He won the election and no matter how much delusional birthers whine about it, he is the president. Get over it.
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Old 03-17-2010, 06:50 PM
 
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I'm ok with it. It's time to stop trying to get Obama declared ineligible and time to figure out who the heck even comes close to being qualified to be POTUS next time around.

I feel bad for all those office clerks in Hawaii having to deal with all this.
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Old 03-17-2010, 06:55 PM
 
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His birth certificate has his place of birth on it. The same one that he released to the public. If you question the authenticity, too bad, you don't matter. He won the election and no matter how much delusional birthers whine about it, he is the president. Get over it.
This country will be strong enough to "get over" the disaster of Obama. However this democracy cannot survive given the uninformed voters that put him there in the first place.
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Old 03-17-2010, 06:56 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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the only thing I found strange about pbo's beirt certificate was the fact that when he was born, the worth negro was used for race, not the word african american.

to me it suggests that the birth certificate was made when it was asked for, not when he was born.


This has been my argument ever since I saw the fake document that was going around.


Race: African.... LOL! Seriously???? In 1961, seriously? You have someone of the clueless, younger generation, fabricating a document.

My birth certificate has My doctor that delivered me, signature. Along with several other signatures. My mom & dad, also signed it.
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Old 03-17-2010, 08:07 PM
 
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It does not say "negro" on his birth certificate. The race is what the parents put on the certificate and his father was African. Every state is different so just because it doesn't look like yours does not make it fake. Seriously, if the president of the USA had a fake birth certificate, and this was part of some vast conspiracy, don't you think they'd have the ability to make it look real?

snopes.com: Barack Obama Birth Certificate

If you can't find a legitimate gripe with the president, perhaps you should sit down somewhere and put a sock in it rather then spewing this foolishness. What a waste of time.
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Old 03-17-2010, 08:36 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
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Should Hawaii ignore requests for President Obama's birth certificate?
Yes.
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Old 03-17-2010, 09:52 PM
 
Location: Vermont
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Let me be perfectly clear, (pregnant pause): If Hawaii just produced the vault copy of Obama's birth certificate the requests would end and this never would have been an issue for conversation.
I don't believe that for a second, and I'm betting that neither do you.

First of, what's this "vault copy" business? Is that the new wacky title that you guys cooked up when "long form" stopped working for you?

Second, you are undoubtedly aware that birther queen Orly Taitz and others have a litany of other bogus arguments that have nothing to do with where Obama was born. So, as you know, it wouldn't make a bit of difference to you or your birther buddies.

What I can't figure out is why Hawaii ever responded to those nuts.
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Old 03-17-2010, 10:09 PM
 
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I voted yes because Hawaii is wasting both money and man hours responding to people who should know that personal information such as birth records are protected by privacy laws and Hawaii cannot legally release that information without the person's permission. Genealogists run into this all the time when trying to get birth/marriage/death/etc. records.
I completely agree.

And one thing I don't understand - wouldn't there be fact checkers of all sorts for anyone even campaigning so that illegals wouldn't even make it to the campaign stage of the game? Do the birthers really believe that Obama just "slipped through"? And that the state of Hawai'i should waste their time responding to their ridiculous requests? I support Hawai'i in ignoring the birthers COMPLETELY. Birthers, shut up already.
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Old 03-18-2010, 12:39 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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You saw the wrong BC. The one I saw said African. These are self-reported, you realize and many Africans, even now, like to distinguish themselves from African-Americans.

I just remember the one they showed on communist news network, and it said african american, not negro.
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