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They want to give us health care reform, tax reform, immigration reform, and mortgage reform. But all we really get it is CHLOROFORM. They want to keep us asleep.
In the 2008 election, a majority of the people voted for change. They are, and will continue to get what they wanted. Those of you who wanted to keep the system the way it was, lost the vote on that effort. I would suggest, wake up, and watch what it means to see change, as opposed to just talking about it.
I find it pretty ridiculous the Democrats won't answer the question about taxes needed to pay for this healthcare bill. The "claim" the middle class won't be taxed but at the same time they won't answer this simple question:
If there's no middle class tax, than why don't you index $200K/250K for inflation?
Fast forward to 2040/2050 when our kids/your grand kids at taxed, 200K won't mean much.
The middle class is all going to pay for this and the deficit will just get larger and larger.
Think AMT (1969 Democrat "tax on the rich"). Guess who primarily gets hit with the alternative min. tax? The middle class, especially those in high personal state income tax states like California, New jersey, New York.
Right now watching the signing of the final piece of the, now law. One large step being taken, in the right direction. I was watching it on FOX, that is until they broke away at 11:30.
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I find it pretty ridiculous the Democrats won't answer the question about taxes needed to pay for this healthcare bill. The "claim" the middle class won't be taxed but at the same time they won't answer this simple question:
If there's no middle class tax, than why don't you index $200K/250K for inflation?
Fast forward to 2040/2050 when our kids/your grand kids at taxed, 200K won't mean much.
The middle class is all going to pay for this and the deficit will just get larger and larger.
Think AMT (1969 Democrat "tax on the rich"). Guess who primarily gets hit with the alternative min. tax? The middle class, especially those in high personal state income tax states like California, New jersey, New York.
They don't answer because they don't understand the consequences of what you posted.
NEW YORK — Insurer Prudential Financial Inc. said Monday that it will take a $100 million charge in the first quarter in relation to the recent health care overhaul legislation.
NEW YORK — Insurer Prudential Financial Inc. said Monday that it will take a $100 million charge in the first quarter in relation to the recent health care overhaul legislation.
Not sure how some thinks this is good for our country
It's not. Besides causing the corporations we want to provide jobs to revaluate because of this loss, the following should be of particular concern:
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Figure 8 also compares the projected cost to the government of subsidizing employment-based retiree drug coverage and Medicare Part D costs. In 2011, the government is expected to provide a per-retiree subsidy of $665 (on average) to employers that provide drug benefits to retirees. In contrast, each Medicare beneficiary enrolled in Part D costs the government $1,209 on average. For each retiree who loses drug coverage through an employer and gains it through Medicare Part D, the additional cost to the government would amount to $544.
Obama and the Dems screwed up. They're throwing a hissy fit now that their colossal bungling is getting public attention.
More light shed on this...
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Most of these people [in the Administration] have never had a real job in their lives. They don't understand a thing about business, and that includes the President," says a senior lobbyist for one of the companies that announced the charge. "My CEO sat with the President over lunch with two other CEOs, and each of them tried to explain to the President what this bill would do to our companies and the economy in general. First the President didn't understand what they were talking about. Then he basically told my boss he was lying. Frankly my boss was embarrassed for him; he clearly had not been briefed and didn't know what was in the bill."
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Neither Waxman or Stupak ...had anything more than a cursory understanding of how the many sections of the bill would impact business or even individual citizens before they voted on the bill, says House Energy Democrat staff. "We had memos on these issues, but none of our people, we think, looked at them," says a staffer. "When they saw the stories last week about the charges some of the companies were taking, they were genuinely surprised and assumed that the companies were just doing this to embarrass them. They really believed this bill would immediately lower costs. They just didn't understand what they were voting on."
NEW YORK — Insurer Prudential Financial Inc. said Monday that it will take a $100 million charge in the first quarter in relation to the recent health care overhaul legislation.
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That's what bob does when he doesn't have an answer. He uses obfusction and misdirection and such trying to dazzle with his adroit footwork. He just doesn't get it and likely never will until it consumes he and us.
I just watched the "talking heads" on FoxBusiness channel and they got into the government takeover of the student loan "business" that this "healthcare" law enabled by amendment. They are all so gutless in tying all these agendas to his socialist mantra of takeover that for me they become irrelevant as a news outlet. INTIMIDATION has set in and is alive and well with ALL media! I marvelled at how they ducked around even the suggesting the racism that this student loan takeover manifests. I documented it all in this topic many pages back denoting the sections wherein ALL loan programs for "middle-income' students were cancelled whilst BILLIONS were add to keep the Pell Grants joke for black and disadvantaged minorities to keep it afloat and well. They also added long-term loan 'forgiveness' in, so that such students can advance plan on intentionally defaulting on their loan obligations and we, the taxpayers (actually our grandkids), take the hit. Also many multi-millions are now doled out to "black" and other "minority" colleges and universities.
Why this "RACIST" preferential treament? Are they all afraid to confront Great Leader with that question in public? I'd roast his *ss with that given the chance. If this isn't what we called reverse racism I've never seen it. What is the ultimate irony is that those these demonRATs calling these groups "disadvantaged" are a misnomer errantly applied. The "disadvantaged" NOW are the white, middle-class kids whose parents will be so burdened down with taxes they won't be ablr to afford to send their kids to college.
Bottom line is that ALL the media are deathly afraid to mention this for fear of having the RATs lay the old "racist" tag and Mark of Cain upon them.
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