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What will make the transition difficult is that states can't afford having even more people added to their Medicaid systems. The math doesn't lie. It's not doable. Dems spent all of their political capitol on an unreachable pipe dream.
38 states are passing or have passed legislation voiding the HCR bill's insurance requirement and/or filing lawsuits against it. "Some 38 states have either filed or announced their intention to file similar legislation" Ten US states to file suit against health care reform - Yahoo! News
Federal money for the states Medicaid expansion will go thru 2020. After that, yes they will have to fund that expansion as well. The states will have nearly a decade to figure out how to fund that, I think they are capable.
38 states are passing or have passed legislation voiding the HCR bill's insurance requirement and/or filing lawsuits against it. "Some 38 states have either filed or announced their intention to file similar legislation" Ten US states to file suit against health care reform - Yahoo! News
I repeat... the Dems have spent all of their political capital promising foolishly gullible followers a financially impossible pie in the sky pipe dream.
What do you think is going to happen when those 30 million or so start showing up in doctors' offices and hospitals and don't get the 'affordable' medical care Obama and the Dems promised?
What do you think is going to happen when those 30 million or so start showing up in doctors' offices and hospitals and don't get the 'affordable' medical care Obama and the Dems promised?
The same thing that always happens in a free market system, the demand will drive the supply. Do you think that the signing of this bill means that tomorrow morning 30 mil new people are going to descend on Doctors offices?
The same thing that always happens in a free market system, the demand will drive the supply.
Which will make it more expensive because the demand for health care far exceeds the supply. That causes prices to rise.
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Do you think that the signing of this bill means that tomorrow morning 30 mil new people are going to descend on Doctors offices?
Tomorrow morning? No. By the November mid-term elections? Probably quite a few.
What do you think is going to happen when they don't get the 'affordable' health care Obama and the Dems promised them?
Which leads to the obvious question... what does 'affordable' health care mean to them? Does it mean spending 12-15% (CBO estimate) of their annual income to purchase health insurance from a private profit-seeking company, plus 30% co-pays?
Sigh. Our children and grandchildres will not be GUARANTEED health care, they will be FORCED to have healtcare. Big difference between the two.
And they should be forced to have healthcare. So that those who buy insurance or pay their bills don't have to pay for them like they do now. You must not be aware that you are paying for those who are unable or unwilling to get medical insurance in form of higher medical bills and higher insurance premiums. Where do you think the hospital losses go? Who do you think pays for those who get expensive surgeries and treatments in the emergency rooms and who are uninsured and unable to pay? Do you really believe that all these people just lie down and die willingly when something happens to them? No, they go the emergency room and get treated for free at the expense of the patients that pay.
Those who can afford to have insurance should be forced to pay for it and not be a burden for the society. Those who cannot afford insurance should get help. There are people who refuse to buy basic insurance coverage because they don't want to pay extra 100-200 a month even though they can afford it and would rather spend it on other non-essential things they want. There are just lots of people out there (which is also obvious from these boards) who simply don't consider medical care a necessity. There are plans for healthy adults that are less than 200/month (and I am talking about expensive PPO plans, but there should be much cheaper ones) with unlimited doctor visits and people who can afford them should be forced to buy them, so that one day when they get into an accident or get pregnant or get sick and are not aware of it and would require expensive surgeries and treatments they wouldn't be stuck with the enormous bills they definitely cannot afford. So, that they wouldn't be able to walk away from their debt and have hospitals take losses and increase the prices for those who diligently pay.
If you make insurance mandatory you will see how quickly people will realize that they actually can afford it, because they spend money on non-essential items. Taxes are mandatory and each and everyone of us can say we can't afford to pay taxes, but we must, so we pay. Paying a portion of your income towards your medical care should be the same thing - mandatory like taxes. Because there is one thing certain - you will get older and most likely at some point get sick to the extent when you need medical care or if you are young you may get an infectious disease or get pregnant or get into an accident.
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I see this as a win for insurance companies. Now people will HAVE to buy their lousy products and services or face a fine.
One day the U.S. will join the rest of the civilized world and recognize that health care is no place for profiteering.
Which will make it more expensive because the demand for health care far exceeds the supply. That causes prices to rise.
Tomorrow morning? No. By the November mid-term elections? Probably quite a few.
What do you think is going to happen when they don't get the 'affordable' health care Obama and the Dems promised them?
Which leads to the obvious question... what does 'affordable' health care mean to them? Does it mean spending 12-15% (CBO estimate) of their annual income to purchase health insurance from a private profit-seeking company, plus 30% co-pays?
On top of demand increasing, you have to think about how much supply is going to decrease.
With the new mandates and regulations imposed by this bill on the health care industry we could see higher increase in premiums than currently exist. -Not good
People who couldn't afford health insurance before but don't qualify for medicare benefits will still be neck deep in water, only they'll have no choice but to sink.
Not to mention, if any of these people work for a small company that can't afford to offer health insurance(but will now be required to), they'll likely see a decrease in wages as well.
This bill may sound noble, but if you read between the lines it is always lose-lose.
Federal money for the states Medicaid expansion will go thru 2020. After that, yes they will have to fund that expansion as well. The states will have nearly a decade to figure out how to fund that, I think they are capable.
actually longer than that....this thing will costs trillions every year
Sec. 1201. Federal funding for States. Strikes the provision for a permanent 100% federal matching rate for Nebraska for the Medicaid costs of newly eligible individuals. Provides federal Medicaid matching payments for the costs of services to newly eligible individuals at the following rates: 100% in 2014, 2015, and 2016; 95% in 2017; 94% in 2018; 93% in 2019; and 90% thereafter. In the case of expansion states, additional federal support for covering nonpregnant childless adults is phased-in so that in 2019 and thereafter, expansion states would receive the same
90% federal funding for expanded medciaid THEREAFTER
say hello to 30 trillion dollar debt within that 15 years
plus....
Sec. 1202. Payments to primary care physicians. Requires that Medicaid payment rates to primary care physicians for furnishing primary care services be no less than 100% of Medicare payment rates in 2013 and 2014. Provides 100% federal funding for the additional costs to States of meeting this requirement.
medicaid was LESS than medicare....now the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT is pushing medicaid (our 100% coverage ( singlepayer, or duelpayer (some say duel because of federal/state)) system
plus:
effective 2013;
Increased Threshold for Claiming Itemized Deduction for Medical Expenses. Increases the income threshold for claiming the itemized deduction for medical expenses from 7.5 to 10 percent. Individuals over 65 would be able to claim the itemized deduction for medical expenses at 7.5 percent of adjusted gross income through 2016..........................MEANING YOU GET LESS OF A FEDERAL TAX WRITE-OFF FOR MEDICAL EXPENSES......so the government SCREWS the middleclass again.,.......
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