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Old 03-22-2010, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC
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These things are not the same as welfare, government give-aways or free medical care for those who choose not to work. I'm all about temporary help for those who lose a job. I think as a society we are obligated to provide for those who truly cannot take care of themselves...children, the disabled, the old folks. Hell, I work pro bono for Legal Aid! I'm not against finding a way to provide quality health care for all WORKING Americans. For the rest of the good citizens of this great nation, I will quote the great Lebowski....."My advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose."

Oh, and now you sound poor and uneducated.

Any who to move on, much legislation in place today is there to protect the poor. While I do agree that some individuals do take advantage of the system most do not. The jobs just are not there, something that most Americans have issues in addressing. A good example is the welfare question. While I do agree with the premise that welfare needed reform, I did not agree with Clinton’s move. His administration generated an arbitrary number of years that Americans could remain on the system, without considering the number of people on it.

The problem then came in the institution of this reform. Welfare services terminated after five years however when addressing a city such as NY the number of individuals pushed off welfare quickly overwhelmed the number of jobs available/created (around 2000 jobs in 1997). This equation becomes even murkier when addressing the down years such as 2001, 2009, and 2010. In fact utilizing the job creation stats of 1997, 25 years would be needed for the absorption of those pushed off welfare in the NY labor market. What should these people do in the mean time? While I do agree that no person should live permanently off the backs of the government, there are many parts of the equation. When speaking of social services things are not black and white.
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Old 03-22-2010, 12:12 PM
 
Location: USA
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Oh, I see...first, you were a Tea-bagger; now, you've added "Confederate sympathizer" to your agenda...I guess it's only a matter of time before you start doing the "goose-step"?

You should cut your losses, and just leave. Your posts are ridiculous.

You're rather harsh to someone who isn't aligning with you.
Since when does supporting what the South tried to do have anything in common with Nazism??? Or, are you just trying to insult the poster?
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Old 03-22-2010, 12:15 PM
 
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No need to claim that this bill is going to end America.

What is going to happen is just exactly what the founders planned for in this situation. The checks and balances systems will attempt to right this wrong.

Its amazing to me that people are so bullheaded about the unpopularity of this bill. You lost a blue seat in congress because of it. What will it take for you all to realize that this bill is NOT popular and the consequences of the Dems ramming it through are going to be long lasting? And not in your favor I should add.

Continue on with your bullheaded celebrating. Similar to how you did following the election of President Obama.

You are driving right off a cliff and don't even know it yet.
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Old 03-22-2010, 12:36 PM
 
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You're rather harsh to someone who isn't aligning with you.
Since when does supporting what the South tried to do have anything in common with Nazism??? Or, are you just trying to insult the poster?
Considering the general tone of his posts, I'd say that my response was appropriate.

And accurate.
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Old 03-22-2010, 12:48 PM
 
Location: California
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Funny how ever since Obama threw his hat into the Presidential ring way back when, the world has been ending on a daily basis.

People seem to think that everything has always been just as it is today in the USA and MUST stay the same else....END OF LIFE IN THE USA AS WE KNOW IT.

Somehow I think everyone flunked history,
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Old 03-22-2010, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
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All empires come to an end just didn't see this one happening so soon. It has taken the past 65 years to come down and it happened last night.
Don't you mean 1776-1981? This country has been going downhill since Ronald Reagan was elected President and the Religious Right took over the Republican Party.
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Old 03-22-2010, 01:05 PM
 
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Originally Posted by MassVt View Post
Oh, I see...first, you were a Tea-bagger; now, you've added "Confederate sympathizer" to your agenda...I guess it's only a matter of time before you start doing the "goose-step"?

You should cut your losses, and just leave. Your posts are ridiculous.
Confederate Sympathizer? More like States rights activist. Again a liberal misses the mark.
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Old 03-22-2010, 01:06 PM
 
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Excuse me but did you mean to say "time to pack your teabags"?.


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Well I guess it's time to pack your bags, see ya.
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Old 03-22-2010, 01:07 PM
 
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Gotta love the talk-radiot/Faux News crowd...The only problems during the Bush nightmare was that liberals were standing in his way of doing EVERYTHING he wanted to do.
You talk-radiots/Faux News/Tea Bagger/Glen Beckiites completely ignored all of the following things under your glorious neo-con Bush administration:
-the big gov't waste of Bush...
-all the dirty tricks he used to circumvent the politicial process to get what Lord Cheney wanted done...
-the fact that he was responsible for the largest gov't privacy intrusion into people's lives in history...
-started and totally fubared probably the single best example in our history of the U.S. starting an unessecary war and one of the worst mis-managements in U.S. history of a conflict...
-8years of ignoring real issues facing our country that desperately needed to be dealt with...i.e. China, healthcare, education, social security, etc. (yes I know a lot of it your wonderful Republican congress should've been dealing with, but seeing as they were worthless that's when its the leaders job to step up)
-Doing something about our insane dependency on foreign oil

Then EVERY SINGLE THING Obama says, does, eats for dinner...becomes a 'oh the world is going to end, America is dead, Glen Beck said purple nazis are going to storm our homes next week and take our children'

You people have just become a total joke...It's sad really because you nutjobs have taken over the Republicans, and because few take you seriousely and you've managed to turn so many more away...the democrats are going to face less and less opposition and continue growing in power because the Republican party has become such a joke.

I hated Bush as well but he never did something like this.
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Old 03-22-2010, 01:09 PM
 
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I hated Bush as well but he never did something like this.
You did not hate bush.
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