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Old 03-23-2010, 12:45 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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You know it's coming, ...more utter sour grapes nonsense...and, itself.
Man, pull yourself together. Your "revolution" should have happened under the village idiot's watch. Over 8 years, he seriously wrecked the country. You're too late. Progress has already begun with this great President Obama.
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Old 03-23-2010, 12:46 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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They could have fixed what was broken, and expanded the Medicade program. All they did, instead, is weaken a country. Badly.
Guess what, you brainiac - MEDICAID IS "SOCIALISM". IT IS PAID FOR BY MY TAX DOLLARS! How can you sit there and complain about all of the "traitorous" stuff going on and support the expansion of Medicaid? Do you realize that this is thoroughly contradictory?

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Yep. If I got cancer without the means to pay for it, I would have sought out other cheaper treatments instead of putting my burdens on other people.

If I would have died because of this, so be it.
There are no "cheaper treatments" for cancer that you could afford. So if you would rather die than receive modern medical treatment, be my guest. But most of the rest of us live in a civilized society where we WANT to be able to have access to affordable health care when we need it.

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Then you pay for it. ALL of it. This is your choice. In fact, you can offer up your kids, and their kids, unto however many generations, to pay for everyone's cancer you feel obligated to pay for.
That's fine. I'd rather pay for that than two idiot wars half way on the other side of the world.

And guess what? You pay for the roads. You pay for the military. You pay for a lot of infrastructure in this country. ALL of it. That's what we do with taxes; we pay membership dues for services that society feels make us better off than we were when we were swinging from trees. If fundamentally disagree with paying for anything, then you should leave civilization and go back to the caves.

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Opinions vary.
Fortunately, I don't see anyone taking yours too seriously.
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Old 03-23-2010, 01:19 AM
 
Location: Atlanta,GA
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Sure, go ahead loot, misbehave, riot and act like a buffoon.

All it takes is one good beating from a cop, who'll have the right to give it to you, and you'll shut up and go home. (you and your buffoon friends)

Just one beating, and you'll go from HotinAZ to Cool-and-regretful-in-Jail.


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You know it's coming, and you can feel it. Yep, there is going to be a revolution, starting at the local level, escalating to the state level.

The time has come. It has nothing to do with left or right, liberal or conservative, Christian or Atheist, or any other Hegelian Dialectic nonsense. It simply has to do with what is right, and what is wrong.

Is it right to steal from one, to give to another? Not just healthcare, but even our banking system, to other social programs designed to take from one group of people, to give to another. And it is stealing, no matter how you want to phrase it, design it, or define it.

Our constitution was a treaty among the States. Not the people. The people's treaty is made WITHIN the State itself and each constitution it has. But the people still had representation in the Federal House, which is what made our country so awesome. It was a protection FROM the Federal and State.

These unconstitutional laws being made today on behalf of the people ARE constitutional, only if you understand how they bypassed the system of checks and balances. Only an ignorant person would think this 'majority' rule system that it seems we now have is something any decent judge would allow. Why do they? Because Congress IS allowed to legislate on behalf of it's juristictional constituants. I have read the laws they pass, and they are legal. So how do these apply to the people of the several States? Find out! It's there.

But our constitution doesn't even represent the State any longer, thanks to the 17th amendment. It is time for a revolution, and I pray it is peaceful. But, on the other hand, if force is needed to RESTORE our Republic, then heaven help us all.

Now before the ignorant reply to this, read your laws, and history prior to 1913, and the founding documents, including the letters leading up to the signing of these documents.

The people themselves resisted ANY federal power AT ALL. Like today, the rich pushed until their agendas were passed, for fear of loss of money made between the States. That is, until the 'civil war'. Even that was about the money, according to Lincoln himself who didn;t even care to free the slaves if he could keep the union together. That became the rallying cry to those who desired to free them. Guess what the next will be? Abortion perhaps? Wars? Taxation?

So, bring it back to the original, and let the mistakes that were allowed to remain back then, like slavery and tariffs, and right the wrongs that have divided us all since.

Otherwise, like ALL world empires of the past, this one too will fail, and collapse upon the weight of the debt imposed upon us by the 'well wishers' who desire all to be equal, and have equal access, when of course this is impossible. Someone has to bear the burdens of this debt, and when the rich are done being pillaged, along with the future generations, what then will be left? We will be wholly owned by foreign countries, which is what happened to all of them in the past. At some point, they will want paid, either by land, or by blood. Perhaps both. The time is coming to make a stand. And the time is coming to take BACK the land, itself.
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Old 03-23-2010, 01:24 AM
 
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Sure, go ahead loot, misbehave, riot and act like a buffoon.

All it takes is one good beating from a cop, who'll have the right to give it to you, and you'll shut up and go home. (you and your buffoon friends)

Just one beating, and you'll go from HotinAZ to Cool-and-regretful-in-Jail.
I hope he starts Maricaopa County. Arpaio loves "tough guys".
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Old 03-23-2010, 01:29 AM
 
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Guess what, you brainiac - MEDICAID IS "SOCIALISM". IT IS PAID FOR BY MY TAX DOLLARS! How can you sit there and complain about all of the "traitorous" stuff going on and support the expansion of Medicaid? Do you realize that this is thoroughly contradictory?
And it is paid for by my tax dollars. Actually, it is paid for by neither, since our money goes to pay the interest on the damn debt. The point was, this law is already on the books, you braniac. There is not another "law" to create. If these idiots were so worried about the lesser fortunate people in society, they could have done anything else, besides take over completely the health care system. Duh!


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There are no "cheaper treatments" for cancer that you could afford. So if you would rather die than receive modern medical treatment, be my guest. But most of the rest of us live in a civilized society where we WANT to be able to have access to affordable health care when we need it.
And if it isn't affordable? Then what? You expect me or others to pay for it? You expect the government to be your nanny? Please. Like I said, reform the system, cap the amount they can charge,,,DO FREAKIN ANYTHING, besides take the damn thing over.


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That's fine. I'd rather pay for that than two idiot wars half way on the other side of the world.
Who wouldn't. I don't suuport those wars, and I sure as hell didn't support Bush.

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And guess what?
What?

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You pay for the roads.
Gas tax.

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You pay for the military.
Wanna bet? China does.

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You pay for a lot of infrastructure in this country.

Such as?

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ALL of it.
LOL. Sorry, nothing but interest buddy. Do your own research, as I am not doing it for you.

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That's what we do with taxes; we pay membership dues for services that society feels make us better off than we were when we were swinging from trees.
Huh? Your a monkey?

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If fundamentally disagree with paying for anything, then you should leave civilization and go back to the caves.
Civilization? Why? Because I choose to keep what I work hard for rather then give it away to those who refuse to work? What country you from? Russia? China? Because it sure as hell don't sound like the America my family fought for, died for, and sacrificed so much for.


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Fortunately, I don't see anyone taking yours too seriously.
Good. As much as yours I suppose. Now, time to address the other monkeys.
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Old 03-23-2010, 01:30 AM
 
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I hope he starts Maricaopa County. Arpaio loves "tough guys".
Actually, he is one of the good guys. One that actually believes in the constitution, and upholds it.
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Old 03-23-2010, 01:31 AM
 
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Sure, go ahead loot, misbehave, riot and act like a buffoon.

All it takes is one good beating from a cop, who'll have the right to give it to you, and you'll shut up and go home. (you and your buffoon friends)

Just one beating, and you'll go from HotinAZ to Cool-and-regretful-in-Jail.
LOL, that is the crap they do in NYC to keep the "subjects" lol, in line. You would know, huh?
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Old 03-23-2010, 01:32 AM
 
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Actually, he is one of the good guys. One that actually believes in the constitution, and upholds it.
Yes, by putting menaces to society in pink underwear and pup tents. He doesn't care what your political agenda is, trust me.
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Old 03-23-2010, 01:33 AM
 
Location: Atlanta,GA
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I hope he starts Maricaopa County. Arpaio loves "tough guys".
How effective is he with the batons?

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Actually, he is one of the good guys. One that actually believes in the constitution, and upholds it.
Please go test him....I'd love to see the end results with that one.
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Old 03-23-2010, 01:33 AM
 
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Man, pull yourself together. Your "revolution" should have happened under the village idiot's watch. Over 8 years, he seriously wrecked the country. You're too late. Progress has already begun with this great President Obama.
Great? We shall see. When the "Obama money" runs out, the rioting will begin.
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