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Reading 'Civil Disobedience' by Henry David Thoreau may be a good idea.
Unfortunately, so many Righties believe that only since Obama does the government try to get into private lives. And only in the realm of finances.
When the Constitution was adopted in 1789, the Founding Fathers recognized that no government could function if it relied entirely on other governments for its resources, thus the Federal Government was granted the authority to raise taxes. The Constitution endowed the Congress with the power to "…lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts, and excises, pay the Debts and provide for the common Defense and general Welfare of the United States." Ever on guard against the power of the central government to eclipse that of the states, the collection of the taxes was left as the responsibility of the State governments.
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With the establishment of the new nation, the citizens of the various colonies now had proper democratic representation, yet many Americans still opposed and resisted taxes they deemed unfair or improper. In 1794, a group of farmers in southwestern Pennsylvania physically opposed the tax on whiskey, forcing President Washington to send Federal troops to suppress the Whiskey Rebellion, establishing the important precedent that the Federal government was determined to enforce its revenue laws. The Whiskey Rebellion also confirmed, however, that the resistance to unfair or high taxes that led to the Declaration of Independence did not evaporate with the forming of a new, representative government.
You see? The favorite founding father of Sarah Palin, George Washington, sent federal troops to oppose a tax rebellion. Perhaps you are right, we should follow in the footsteps of our "Founding Fathers!"
My ancestors were captured and stolen away from their homeland, crowded into the guts of a slave ship and transported across the sea where their names were taken away along with their freedom. They were then forced to work for (and provide "pleasure" to) their masters at will. They were bred like cattle and were not even regarded as human.
So cut the "what would our ancestors think" crap because this bill would be looked upon as a BLESSING & A GODSEND by most any of our ancestors; most which had very difficult lives and many who were also too poor to seek adequate medical attention for their ailments (ironically due to cost) in both their home country and America.
Our ancestors (the God fearing people that they probably were) would look at the utter stupidity of the Republican hoopla and hang their heads in shame to think that those self-centered/misguided people descended from them.
No, you're misunderstanding. They were saved by the Europeans from the horrors of African socialised medicine.
Unfortunately, my European ancestors (I have traced my family to the 16th century) stole this continent from my Native ancestors and brought my African ancestors over to work it for free. Clear?
Unfortunately, my European ancestors (I have traced my family to the 16th century) stole this continent from my Native ancestors and brought my African ancestors over to work it for free. Clear?
revisionist much...
You do realize that your african ancestors sold their own african brothers and sisters to your european ancestors.
You do also realize that your American Indian ancestors sold the ground to your european ancestors, that proceeded to build it into the greatest nation in the world.
Until your African ancestors took it over and enslaved your european ancestors through entitlement welfare, class warfare, european hatred, marxism and eventually a 2nd revolution.
You do realize that your african ancestors sold their own african brothers and sisters to your european ancestors.
Revisionist I don't think so............The Africans sold their enemies to the Europeans. They didn't sell their brothers.
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You do also realize that your American Indian ancestors sold the ground to your european ancestors, that proceeded to build it into the greatest nation in the world.
Absolute malarkey.
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Until your African ancestors took it over and enslaved your european ancestors through entitlement welfare, class warfare, european hatred, marxism and eventually a 2nd revolution.
The left will look out their projects window at the bus going by they missed to go to the employemnt offce and wander what they did in 2010 to deserve this.s they walk to the bus top they will pass by a televison seeing obama in the bahamas waving and smiling.
The left will look out their projects window at the bus going by they missed to go to the employemnt offce and wander what they did in 2010 to deserve this.s they walk to the bus top they will pass by a televison seeing obama in the bahamas waving and smiling.
I'm getting very tired of these posts about "the left" all living in projects, etc. Plus, this post has nothing to do with the topic.
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To answer you first question, I think at first they wanted representation in the British Parliament. Only when it was obvious that wasn't going to happen, did they revolt.
I think so too...
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EMERGENCE OF COLONIAL GOVERNMENT The Colonial Period
In the early phases of colonial development, a striking feature was the lack of controlling influence by the English government. All colonies except Georgia emerged as companies of shareholders, or as feudal proprietorships stemming from charters granted by the Crown. The fact that the king had transferred his immediate sovereignty over the New World settlements to stock companies and proprietors did not, of course, mean that the colonists in America were necessarily free of outside control. Under the terms of the Virginia Company charter, for example, full governmental authority was vested in the company itself. Nevertheless, the crown expected that the company would be resident in England. Inhabitants of Virginia, then, would have no more voice in their government than if the king himself had retained absolute rule.
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Yet the assumption of self-government in the colonies did not go entirely unchallenged. In the 1670s, the Lords of Trade and Plantations, a royal committee established to enforce the mercantile system in the colonies, moved to annul the Massachusetts Bay charter because the colony was resisting the government's economic policy. James II in 1685 approved a proposal to create a Dominion of New England and place colonies south through New Jersey under its jurisdiction, thereby tightening the Crown's control over the whole region. A royal governor, Sir Edmund Andros, levied taxes by executive order, implemented a number of other harsh measures, and jailed those who resisted.
I believe they wanted out from under the 'thumb', however funny enough (I couldn't find it to quote) we still have England laws on the books, as well as, states that still adhere to those laws.
Also, we did have (reading a post above) the George Washington militia. Maybe I read about the militia in the history posted on line that I have linked to...but imho, we haven't gotten very far away from the 'thumb'.
Then or now, it seems...
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Unfortunately, so many Righties believe that only since Obama does the government try to get into private lives. And only in the realm of finances.
I believe people are just dealing with the issues at hand. I believe they are looking back wondering to themselves, 'how did we get here', 'this is not our life', 'this in not what we planned it to be.' However, Obama is the man of the hour, so he now the focal point of discussion.
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