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Old 03-24-2010, 07:59 PM
 
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"Who owns Washington? The lobbyists, or us? It's up to you. Please help."

Banksters and other fat cats will continue running things unless we have public campaign finance reform, make it an amendment.

 
Old 03-25-2010, 12:32 AM
 
Location: Houston, texas
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YouTube - Who Really Controls Washington? (Lobbyist & the Rich Elite)
"The corruptive power of money is a hundred times greater than its acquisitive one".
 
Old 03-26-2010, 03:45 PM
 
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This is an issue that afflicts both sides of the aisle.

“But the core of the story is the kind of economic pressure that intellectual conservatives are under. AEI represents the best of the conservative world. [AEI President] Arthur Brooks is a brilliant man, and his books are fantastic. But the elite isn’t leading anymore. It’s trapped. Partly because of the desperate economic situation in the country, what were once the leading institutions of conservatism are constrained."

Either get big business out of politics altogether or level the playing field (public campaign finance reform).
 
Old 03-26-2010, 04:21 PM
 
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"Who owns Washington? The lobbyists, or us? It's up to you. Please help."

Banksters and other fat cats will continue running things unless we have public campaign finance reform, make it an amendment.
You can't change what they do with a law they will just brake the law. You need to do diferent stuff your self. We all need to.
 
Old 03-26-2010, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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You don't understand..these guys make the law, not us.
We just get some scraps to keep us happy.

He who has the money gets to make the rules.
 
Old 03-26-2010, 04:47 PM
 
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You don't understand..these guys make the law, not us.
We just get some scraps to keep us happy.

He who has the money gets to make the rules.
Yip and $10 per person per year for 1/3 of the US would just about equal the amount currently being spent on succesful elections. Do you have $10?
 
Old 03-26-2010, 04:52 PM
 
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Too bad we're too caught up in the Red vs. Blue game they've got us all playing to ever actually press our representatives on this. When it comes to politics, Americans tend to just be a bunch of ignorant cheerleaders.
 
Old 03-26-2010, 04:56 PM
 
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Too bad we're too caught up in the Red vs. Blue game they've got us all playing to ever actually press our representatives on this. When it comes to politics, Americans tend to just be a bunch of ignorant cheerleaders.
Well quit playing their game and start playing your own game. As long as it is dem this and repub that it will never change. I'm for the penny pinching person's party myself.
 
Old 03-26-2010, 05:15 PM
 
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You don't understand..these guys make the law, not us.
We just get some scraps to keep us happy.

He who has the money gets to make the rules.
Are you part of the top 1.5% making 250K and up?

If so, then I can understand why you seem content with the coming destruction of the middle class.

Notice how people are celebrating how the recession is over (only for the corporate elite), the drum beat to dismantle SS & Medi-Care with deficit scare tactics and any move to tax the wealthy or invest domestically is greeted with shouts of socialism, while the deafening silence when it comes to furthering corporate interests in foreign lands.

We need a movement for campaign finance reform and/or add an amendment to the Constitution in the spirit of the Founding Father Jefferson.

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"Jefferson and Madison proposed an 11th Amendment to the Constitution that would "ban monopolies in commerce," making it illegal for corporations to own other corporations, banning them from giving money to politicians or trying to influence elections in any way, restricting corporations to a single business purpose, limiting the lifetime of a corporation to something roughly similar to that of productive humans (20 to 40 years back then), and requiring that the first purpose for which all corporations were created be "to serve the public good."
 
Old 03-26-2010, 05:17 PM
 
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Well quit playing their game and start playing your own game. As long as it is dem this and repub that it will never change. I'm for the penny pinching person's party myself.
Picking up your ball and going to play by yourself doesn't work. You have to change the rules of the game.
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