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I think people are crazy to take chemotherapy. Is there any evidence that it works? I mean is something that makes your hair fall out good for you? And don't you have to sigen a disclaimer saying you understand that the chemo may kill you? Not the cancer, but the chemo itself.
Seems to me if people don't engage in behavior that causes cancer then there is a strong likelihood they won't get cancer. Sort of like diabetics. Don't eat crap that causes diabetes and you probably ain't gonna get it.
Question: Should a cancer patient without private insurance (due to not being offered at their job), Medicare (for the old and disabled), or Medicaid (for the abject poor), be denied lifesaving chemotherapy treatments due to an inability to pay?
This is the situation for many people that work full, 40 hour weeks and make an honest contribution to our society. Many have done everything right and have gone through a hard streak, and may be working at the convenience store after losing a manufacturing job. Cancers are growing and people are dying.
A lot of people on the right say that we pay for care in the emergency room anyway, but have you seen a chemo ward where people can get daily treatments in an ER?
Let's know where you stand.
Yes, if I have to pay for it otherwise if my taxes go towards somebody's healthcare that will be socialism and my rights will be taken away.....Oh!, sorry, I thought this was a right wing thread
I think people are crazy to take chemotherapy. Is there any evidence that it works? I mean is something that makes your hair fall out good for you? And don't you have to sigen a disclaimer saying you understand that the chemo may kill you? Not the cancer, but the chemo itself.
Seems to me if people don't engage in behavior that causes cancer then there is a strong likelihood they won't get cancer. Sort of like diabetics. Don't eat crap that causes diabetes and you probably ain't gonna get it.
Yes, there is plenty of evidence that chemo works. Chemo has made childhood leukemia a survivable cancer, also many other types of cancer. Anyone who thinks a "healthy lifestyle" will prevent cancer is incredibly naive.
In any case, I watched Sicko not too recently and watched the "Extra features" part. There was a woman living in the south and she had been recently diagnosed with cancer. She was told she could receive a discount if she brought in x amount, even though she had no job. She held a fundraiser and raised enough money. She went a doc and the doc found out she didn't have health insurance. She ended up NOT getting the discount because her fund raising "proved" she had an income. Well without the discount she couldn't afford the chemo and subsequently died. I'll try to find a Youtube video of that part of the video.
I think people are crazy to take chemotherapy. Is there any evidence that it works? I mean is something that makes your hair fall out good for you? And don't you have to sigen a disclaimer saying you understand that the chemo may kill you? Not the cancer, but the chemo itself.
Seems to me if people don't engage in behavior that causes cancer then there is a strong likelihood they won't get cancer. Sort of like diabetics. Don't eat crap that causes diabetes and you probably ain't gonna get it.
You are kidding, right? What behavior might that be?
Yes, there is plenty of evidence that chemo works. Chemo has made childhood leukemia a survivable cancer, also many other types of cancer. Anyone who thinks a "healthy lifestyle" will prevent cancer is incredibly naive.
Do yuo have any links to that? I'm just wondering because I've never seen anything.
What's naive about thinking a healthy lifestyle would keep someone from getting cancer? Do you suggest we all smoke 2 packs a day and shoot up some herion?
Do you even know how people get cancer? Or do you just think it is something that happens to people regardless of their behavior?
And there is pretty strong evidence that eating spirulina and chlorella will prevent cancer. Cures it too. Those are blue green algaes.
When the dentist gives people large amounts of mercury they tell the patient to take large amounts chlorella. It rids the body of the excess mercury. It works as a detoxifier, if you will.
Do yuo have any links to that? I'm just wondering because I've never seen anything.
What's naive about thinking a healthy lifestyle would keep someone from getting cancer? Do you suggest we all smoke 2 packs a day and shoot up some herion?
Do you even know how people get cancer? Or do you just think it is something that happens to people regardless of their behavior?
And there is pretty strong evidence that eating spirulina and chlorella will prevent cancer. Cures it too. Those are blue green algaes.
When the dentist gives people large amounts of mercury they tell the patient to take large amounts chlorella. It rids the body of the excess mercury. It works as a detoxifier, if you will.
Childhood leukemia survival statistics:
ACS :: What Are the Key Statistics About Childhood Leukemia? (http://www.cancer.org/docroot/CRI/content/CRI_2_4_1X_What_are_the_key_statistics_about_child hood_leukemia_24.asp - broken link)
You are welcome to look up more articles on google.
No, I do not recommend people smoke two packs a day and shoot heroin. In fact, one of the best cancer preventives is to not smoke.
How do you think people get cancer? How do kids get leukemia? How do women get breast cancer? How do men get prostate cancer? How did my daughter get melanoma in a place where the sun doesn't shine? You tell me. Also tell me your medical credentials.
No! The opportunity to cure cancer ailments presents an opportunity for scientific development. To deny a patient that opportunity is to deny progress.
Question: Should a cancer patient without private insurance (due to not being offered at their job), Medicare (for the old and disabled), or Medicaid (for the abject poor), be denied lifesaving chemotherapy treatments due to an inability to pay?
This is the situation for many people that work full, 40 hour weeks and make an honest contribution to our society. Many have done everything right and have gone through a hard streak, and may be working at the convenience store after losing a manufacturing job. Cancers are growing and people are dying.
A lot of people on the right say that we pay for care in the emergency room anyway, but have you seen a chemo ward where people can get daily treatments in an ER?
Let's know where you stand.
A close friend of mine has non-Hodgkins Lymphoma. She had lost her job the year before and was unable to find another when the symptoms first appeared. She began by going to the ER for the immediate symptoms (leg swelling to five times normal size because of tumors cutting off the circulation) and through that initial visit she was enrolled in the state's charity care program. She received her standard chemo through charity care as well as follow-up treatment as part of a clinical trial.
So, the treatment is available by INITIALLY going through the ER.
However, the hospital that treated her was the second ER she went to. The first hospital, a good hospital but located in a county seat where there were a lot of poor and homeless, told her there was a two-year wait for charity care at their hospital, which of course translated to "you are dead." She went to another hospital in an affluent area that did not have many charity care patients, and she was able to begin treatment right away.
It may also be the norm that charity patients are asked more frequently to participate in clinical trials?--not sure about that.
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Well without the discount she couldn't afford the chemo and subsequently died. I'll try to find a Youtube video of that part of the video.
