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Ok now what if everyone goes to that series of classes. Suddenly those can be paid less because of a surplus of workers, and just because a person gets additional training, doesn't mean a job is waiting for them on the other side. Arguably, something you just implied. Get the skill and you're more marketable.......not if everyone else gets that skill.
You still didn't answer what is so extremist about a liveable wage for all. Besides maybe some people have better things to do with their time (family, hobbies etc.) than pursue advancement in the hope it will lead to covering cost of living expenses.
Then they deserve the meager $7/hour that they are earning.
No pain, no gain. I don't believe in handouts so they can have "free time".
And with that post..I'm outta here. What you propose is pure socialism, paying those that don't want to pursue advancement via those that do.
It sounds to me like you are talking about redistribution of the wealth and trying to hide it behind something else. If I am really wrong please explain to me how it is that I am.
Call it what you wish. The wealth has been redistributed towards the top for years... hence the income inequality gap rising. Cost of living isn't getting any cheaper yet wages remain stagnant.
If it makes you more comfortable to use wealth redistribution, thats fine. Call me a communist if that makes you feel better. I don't mind. But wealth redistribution works both ways, and it should be acknowledged so.
Then they deserve the meager $7/hour that they are earning.
No pain, no gain. I don't believe in handouts so they can have "free time".
And with that post..I'm outta here. What you propose is pure socialism, paying those that don't want to pursue advancement via those that do.
That's not "pure" Socialism, or even Socialism at all. Good thing you're leaving. Hope you're going to a library where you can get a book and educate yourself.
So, I gotta ask. What are your present skills? Your skills determine who you compete with in the job market. If you are competeing with too many people, you will make crappy wages. Find a job category that pays well and lacks people to fill the positions. This isn't rocket science.
The funny thing is that while you're getting an education/training, jobs can fill up, and then you're back to square one. that game can be played until a person's life is wasted away. Not a lot of rocket science there either.
and to answer your question
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Bachelor's degree in education, Highly qualified by NCLB standards for music and mathematics.
In school to be a Physician Assistant
I also have experience as a prep cook, grocery stock person and can drive a HiLo along with other things.
Then they deserve the meager $7/hour that they are earning.
No pain, no gain. I don't believe in handouts so they can have "free time".
And with that post..I'm outta here. What you propose is pure socialism, paying those that don't want to pursue advancement via those that do.
No it really isn't. People can go out and pursue skills in areas where there are shortages all the time. Then while they're pursuing skills, those jobs fill up. Then they're in debt and back to probably the same job they had in the first place.
So someone flipping burgers should earn a living wage instead of minimum wage? Why? If they did that then what would they have to aspire to? In 1986 my first job was flipping burgers for $3.35 an hour. When I got management, my pay raise was so poor I started looking for a better job. I now work with boilers, generators, HVAC systems, fire alarm system, and medical gas system for a hospital. I worked and studied my way into this job and pay and you think it's perfectly fine to wave a magic wand and raise everyone's pay to a "living wage". No, they want a living wage then let them work, mentally and physically, to EARN that wage. What you want is a redistribution of wealth or "share the wealth" as Obama put it.
No it really isn't. People can go out and pursue skills in areas where there are shortages all the time. Then while they're pursuing skills, those jobs fill up. Then they're in debt and back to probably the same job they had in the first place.
Lets get serious here, people making minimum wage aren't stuck in a rut of finding a marketable skill, obtaining it, only to find everyone else did the same thing, back to square one.
No, the realilty is, there are shortages of certain professions 100% of the time. People making minimum wage are making such because they have little skills that everyone else doesn't have. You shouldn't be able to make 40-50k a year cause you can breath. Yes education costs money, but guess what, don't screw up in high school and you can get funding for any education.
Most people that are stuck working poor made the mistake bolded above. For that, I'm blaming them, so I shouldn't be shouldered with their 'liveable' wage just so they can live the American Dream that I am busting my *** to.
It's not an employers responsilibility to pay someone enough to "live" on. It is the employers responsibility to pay the person for services rendered. If the person feels it isn't enough thaty person can find employment elsewhere.
If I want someone to mow my lawn I aint gonna pay them 20 bucks an hour. Nor should I.
And every employer in this country spends an extra 5 bucks an hour for each employee to deal with government regulation. So if someone is making $10 an hour the employer is spending $15. That suppresses wages.
The main problem in this country is we have to many p*ssies. Always wanting something for nothing. And if they don't get what they "deserve" they run to the D.C. Pathetic.
I would venture $40K since the OP talks about a dependent.
That would equate to about $20/hour..for something as simple as flipping burgers.
Again... define a livable wage - a livable wage at $20 an hour is living like a king in some areas - while barely living in a cardboard box in others..
And ... who determines what is considered "livable"..
Until we do away with free trade, Americans will be forced to compete with near slave labor in the third world, and wages will be forced downward...
There's nothing wrong with a reasonable liveable wage, but it only works when you're not competing with places like China...
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