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Old 03-28-2010, 01:52 AM
 
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If a person doesn't have a job, the last thing they would do is spend money to weatherize their home.
It's money well spent long term though. For example 've had customers cut their heating bills in half adding insulation and windows. Let's suppose we have a family on assistance receiving LIHEAP funding and over 20 years they collect $10,000 in assistance for heat. That money would be better spent retrofitting with windows and insulation for long lasting benefits. These low income families don't have the capital for windows or insulation so thy keep on going down the same path literally burning up money to heat their home because it's short term.
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Old 03-28-2010, 04:43 AM
 
Location: Fredericktown,Ohio
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It's money well spent long term though. For example 've had customers cut their heating bills in half adding insulation and windows. Let's suppose we have a family on assistance receiving LIHEAP funding and over 20 years they collect $10,000 in assistance for heat. That money would be better spent retrofitting with windows and insulation for long lasting benefits. These low income families don't have the capital for windows or insulation so thy keep on going down the same path literally burning up money to heat their home because it's short term.
The programs intentions are good but you have to figure that they spent 5 billion and only reached 30,000 homes.That is a hefty price tag per house they need to think about getting a lot more bang for the buck.This type of waste is a good example of why we do not want the federal gvt creating jobs.
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Old 03-28-2010, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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The OP uses a link from the ACORN pimp fraud-ster. As if partisan hackery was some how evidences.
Can you read?

It is an AP article.
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Old 03-28-2010, 10:24 AM
 
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Cash for Caulkers I believe was the term. More ridiculous liberal ideas that are epic failures. If a person doesn't have a job, the last thing they would do is spend money to weatherize their home.

STIMULUS WATCH: Weatherizing program falling short



I just have to ask: Why is the federal government in the business of weatherizing homes? How utterly ridiculous.
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It seems like every day there is a new wrench in the works that keeps us from moving ahead,
Wonder where the wrenches are coming from . . .

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Old 03-28-2010, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Arizona High Desert
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Hell, anything that blocks out the nasty cold helps to keep people HEALTHY. That's a money saver right there. Some of "youse guys" don't get the meaning of thrift, or practicality. My dollar is on the mr and MS Fix it's of the world who get off their butts, and CAULK !
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Old 03-28-2010, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Arizona High Desert
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I can see it now: Caulk n keg parties. Git it done, git it gone.
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Old 04-03-2010, 12:13 AM
 
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LOL, some people are seriously dumb. This isn't meant for people who don't have money or jobs. This is meant for people who have houses who still have jobs and want to save money down the road. I'll bet that when this country went into Iraq and started spending trillions over seas you had your right wing tail between your legs right?

I am glad this administration is investing in our own country and not half around the world. Right wing morons.
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Old 04-03-2010, 03:15 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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LOL, some people are seriously dumb. This isn't meant for people who don't have money or jobs. This is meant for people who have houses who still have jobs and want to save money down the road. I'll bet that when this country went into Iraq and started spending trillions over seas you had your right wing tail between your legs right?

I am glad this administration is investing in our own country and not half around the world. Right wing morons.


Build Iraq? GOOD!

Build America? SOCIALISM!

That's the Dopey-Changey Program
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Old 04-03-2010, 08:47 AM
 
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Cash for Caulkers I believe was the term.
You would believe incorrectly once again. The article discusses stimulus bill money that was pumped into a long-existing federal program that uses non-profits to spur interest and activity in local home efficiency improvements. There have been various local problems with through-put, some of which are mentioned in the article and some of which are not.

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More ridiculous liberal ideas that are epic failures.
Cash for Caulkers (aka Homestar) is a program that would offer point-of-sale rebates on qualifying energy-efficiency projects to residential, commercial, and industrial properties. It was briefly considered for inclusion in legislation last Fall, but the administration decided to hold off to do more tailoring. As presently envisioned it would offer two levels of assistance, up to $1500 for basic stuff (insulation, duct sealing, replacement windows, etc.) and up to $12,000 for major projects done after an energy audit of a property. New heating/AC equipment and efficiency-monitoring devices would be keys at that level.

Currently, 25-35% of the energy used by a typical household is simply wasted, meaning that efficiency projects can ultimately pay for themselves. Currently, the recession and housing slump have a lot of HVAC workers either under- or unemployed. The up-front nature of Cash for Caulkers program and its status as a limited-time-offer could well stir consumer interest, just as the Cash for Clunkers program did. There are a lot of potential positives to talk about in this notion.

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I just have to ask: Why is the federal government in the business of weatherizing homes? How utterly ridiculous.
Actually, it's a much more interesting idea than anything on any topic that I have ever heard you come up with.
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Old 04-03-2010, 09:04 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Not gonna lie, even as a more progressively-minded person, I have to say that this program is a flop at this point. The intentions are good, the implementation is crappy.
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