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Old 03-27-2010, 09:07 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Cash for Caulkers I believe was the term. More ridiculous liberal ideas that are epic failures. If a person doesn't have a job, the last thing they would do is spend money to weatherize their home.

STIMULUS WATCH: Weatherizing program falling short

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FRESNO, Calif. (AP) - After a year of crippling delays, President Barack Obama's $5 billion program to install weather-tight windows and doors has retrofitted a fraction of homes and created far fewer construction jobs than expected.

But after a year, the stimulus program has retrofitted 30,250 homes—about 5 percent of the overall goal—and fallen well short of the 87,000 jobs that the department planned, according to the latest available figures.

As the Obama administration promotes a second home energy-savings program—a $6 billion rebate plan—some experts are asking whether that will pay off for homeowners or for the planet.
I just have to ask: Why is the federal government in the business of weatherizing homes? How utterly ridiculous.
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Old 03-27-2010, 09:36 PM
 
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Cash for Caulkers I believe was the term. More ridiculous liberal ideas that are epic failures. If a person doesn't have a job, the last thing they would do is spend money to weatherize their home.

STIMULUS WATCH: Weatherizing program falling short



I just have to ask: Why is the federal government in the business of weatherizing homes? How utterly ridiculous.
Well......

There are now a LOT of houses sitting vacant......that perhaps, could benefit from this weatherization idea.

The ones that haven't been stripped clean or torched and are still suitable for squatters, temporarily house-sitting until a buyer ever shows up.

Sounds like an ACORN has rooted itself.
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Old 03-27-2010, 09:41 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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STIMULUS WATCH: Weatherizing program falling short
I just have to ask: Why is the federal government in the business of weatherizing homes? How utterly ridiculous.
Its not.

From your linked article:

"The stimulus package gave a jolt to the decades-old federal Weatherization Assistance Program.

Weatherization money flows from Washington to the states, where it is passed to local nonprofits that hire contractors to spread insulation and install efficient heaters in people's homes".

The program is over 30 years old. (President Ford's term of office)
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Old 03-27-2010, 09:46 PM
 
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Its not.

From your linked article:

"The stimulus package gave a jolt to the decades-old federal Weatherization Assistance Program.

Weatherization money flows from Washington to the states, where it is passed to local nonprofits that hire contractors to spread insulation and install efficient heaters in people's homes".

The program is over 30 years old.
Actually it is. The fact that the federal government isnt hiring the contractors directly doesnt mean that they arent mandating the states to do so. But as you posted, its been doing so for decades. This however is an expansion of the plan due to additional funding and indeed is a failure as was projected it would be.
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Old 03-27-2010, 10:00 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Actually it is. The fact that the federal government isnt hiring the contractors directly doesnt mean that they arent mandating the states to do so. But as you posted, its been doing so for decades. This however is an expansion of the plan due to additional funding and indeed is a failure as was projected it would be.
Nothing is mandated to the states. The money is offered with rules attached.

What constitutes a failure?
Houses were weatherized. 124000 homes were weatherized in 2009.


Maybe new jobs were not created but existing workers have work and are not on unemployment?

Much of the delays have been the states issues.

Also from the article:

"Many states held off on weatherizing under the stimulus over concerns about a Depression-era law that requires contractors to pay workers wages equal to those paid for local public works projects.



Bureaucratic delays kept officials in Austin, Texas, from weatherizing anything while they waited to hire furnace technicians under a $7.4 million federal grant, of which they received the first installment this month.


The recession itself has compounded the problems, since hiring freezes in some states meant there weren't enough public employees to administer the program".
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Old 03-27-2010, 10:09 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Houses were weatherized. 124000 homes were weatherized in 2009.
Where are you getting that number? Wait! Don't tell - from the propaganda site also known as the White House?

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But after a year, the stimulus program has retrofitted 30,250 homes—about 5 percent of the overall goal—and fallen well short of the 87,000 jobs that the department planned, according to the latest available figures.
According to the AP, who has analyzed the program, it is falling way, way short of expectations.
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Old 03-27-2010, 10:15 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Where are you getting that number? Wait! Don't tell - from the propaganda site also known as the White House?



According to the AP, who has analyzed the program, it is falling way, way short of expectations.
No, Better Home & Gardens, the GAO and the DOE.

Just the states of Ohio & Michigan had more then the AP's number.
The AP used partial data provided by the GAO.
The 5% was using one year instead of the full length of the program offering (til 2012)
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Old 03-27-2010, 11:16 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Its not.

From your linked article:

"The stimulus package gave a jolt to the decades-old federal Weatherization Assistance Program.

Weatherization money flows from Washington to the states, where it is passed to local nonprofits that hire contractors to spread insulation and install efficient heaters in people's homes".

The program is over 30 years old. (President Ford's term of office)
We are now blaming Ford for Cash for Caulkers program. I never heard of that program till after the passage of the Stimulus act. Hmmmmm.
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Old 03-27-2010, 11:33 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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The OP uses a link from the ACORN pimp fraud-ster. As if partisan hackery was some how evidences.
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Old 03-27-2010, 11:37 PM
 
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None of hussein obama's programs are meant to work, they are meant to funnel our money to his cronies for pay-offs.
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