One More Challenge for the Progressives Here (McCain, extremist, Kennedy)
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This show tells the truth about the most successful progressives, up to Obama, like Lenin and Stalin, Hitler, Che Guavara, Mao tse-tung, and some of our own progressives.
Progressives are reformist, and as such would have been looked on with disdain by revolutionaries like Lenin, Stalin, Mao and most definitely Che. To place Obama in the same category is undoubtedly one of the most ridiculous and ahistorical observations that I could possibly think of.
There is a worthwhile thread started to discuss the policies of recognized progressives like Theodore and Franklin Roosevelt, Kennedy, and Johnson. That is a worthwhile and constructive discussion, this one is a waste of time, unless you have no familiarity of history or political theory.
Only a bozo like Beck would label Stalin, Hitler, Mao, and Che as "progressives."
The fact that you echo his words doesn't speak highly for your grasp of the concept, either.
This is why Beck belongs on Comedy Central instead of Fox where people will know that Beck is a comedy act and you're suppose to laugh at the way he twists and edits history to suit his crackpot agenda.
Bottom line, Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Che, Mao, violated the peoples' rights and our government is traveling headlong right down their path.
Redistribution of wealth might sound inoffensive but in reality it is theft and a crime against humanity.
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Originally Posted by Joe_Ryder
On that point it's clear that you are correct.
And what was Bushy...a saint? because I'm pretty sure a war for his daddy's revenge constitutes crimes against humanity.
Question...do you have wealth to even be redistributed, I mean if you did, then you would do whatever it takes to protect it, but unless not, what do you care.
Socialism is not about redistributing wealth, communism is. There is a distinction between little c communism, and big C Communism. If you had any education, and if the system didn't fail you, then you might have acutally read Marx. Thomas Jefferson would have been a communist. He thought we should all live on independent farms and hated the idea of buisness--as it was a burden to democracy. Alexander Hamilton created America's capital system...He and Jefferson HATED each other immensely.
Now I'm a capitalist. But I actaully understand what that means...you should read Adam Smith's "Wealth of Nations". But when capitalism fails, as often as it does...it is usually socialism that fixes the problems. Because at the end of the day, the only thing you or I can trust is a democratic government, and not some faceless corporation.
Pure capitalism doesn' even exisit in our modern world, neither did pure communism, beause human greed gets in the way. We have a regularized capitalistic society which means it is already is borderline socialism. Socialism can exist in a democracy.
If you take what Hitler says at face value about socialism, then you relly don't know anything about Nazi Germany. Socialism is a very very old idea, which far predates Hitler. He was socialist in name only. Kind of like how Bush was a fiscal conservative in name only. Names only work when you are actually the thing you're named for.
Btw, I'm sure I have twice the education you have. So do not accuse me of ignorance. I believe in the power of education. Ignorance is a sickness for which the only cure is education.
Progressives are reformist, and as such would have been looked on with disdain by revolutionaries like Lenin, Stalin, Mao and most definitely Che. To place Obama in the same category is undoubtedly one of the most ridiculous and ahistorical observations that I could possibly think of.
There is a worthwhile thread started to discuss Progressive policies of past progressives like Theodore and Franklin Roosevelt, Kennedy, and Johnson. That is a worthwhile and constructive discussion, this one is a waste of time, unless you have no familiarity of history or political theory.
And what was Bushy...a saint? because I'm pretty sure a war for his daddy's revenge constitutes crimes against humanity.
I lost all respect for Bush way back when he revealed his true colors.
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Question...do you have wealth to even be redistributed, I mean if you did, then you would do whatever it takes to protect it, but unless not, what do you care.
When the government is permitted to steal from even one of us, it diminishes everyone’s freedom.
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Pure capitalism doesn' even exisit in our modern world, neither did pure communism, beause human greed gets in the way. We have a regularized capitalistic society which means it is already is borderline socialism. Socialism can exist in a democracy.
Now that I somewhat agree with. However, we need to return to a truly free market – that’s what made our country great and enabled it to become the most generous nation in the world.
Sorry, but the rest of your post was just too bizarre for to respond to.
I think Beck has finally taken one turn too many around that bend with some stuff he's broadcasting... But that's okay. He's entertainment, basically. There was a thread here about whether he should be taken off the air...No way! He's a real character, and probably pushes more people away from his line of thinking than he could possibly imagine, simply by being so crazily over-the-top.
I shouldn't say that specifically about this broadcast as I can't access it...It's more like a general observation.
Very general observation without any knowledge about what was on that show. I studied that period of history very much in the 50s and 60s because of college studies and can assure you that I caught nothing on that one about Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Che or any of the others he talked about. All true and very horrendous to hear anyone talk about. The students of history who provided the info for that show know what is going on. The main problem is that not one of them writes for left leaning sources so that makes them very bad sources of info in the eyes of many.
That show was anything but entertaining for those who know what he was talking about.
It seems like the libfools don't have DVR's and are afraid to learn anything of their hero progressives from the past. Especially the genocide, mass murder and suffering that they caused this past 100 years!
Isn't it strange that most everybody knows about the Holocaust that Hitler and his Socialist Party perpetrated but very few people know about Communist Stalin's annihilation of Ukranians in what is known as HOLODOMOR!
Few people know about anything that Stalin did but then he was our "ally" from about 1942 to the war's end and much of that info had already been buried.
How many people have any idea about the young people's hero, Che, and how many people he murdered with his own hand? I think that number may well be very few because parents, at least, would be against what goes on about him.
How many have any idea about what Mao did from the mid 40s to the Chinese people to bring them under control. Yep, that show did a great job and didn't call those people progressives but I certainly think of them that way. Progressives = Socialism to me.
I wonder how many of those "hard workers" tried to see that show. I guess they just work hard and don't get home in time to see the show. They could DVR or record the show if they are at work but I think they all fear what they may learn from seeing it for themselves.
Yesterday Beck ran a rerun that should be run at least once each week so more and more people can see what kind of people the progressives of the world have done. if enough learn about them maybe we can survive the current progressive movement taking over our nation.
This show tells the truth about the most successful progressives, up to Obama, like Lenin and Stalin, Hitler, Che Guavara, Mao tse-tung, and some of our own progressives. How many of you know which one of those I named was responsible for the most deaths? How many know which of them starved over 7 million people in about one year and those people produced much more food than they needed to survive?
Oh well, one more time, watch the show on Temporarily Unavailable and learn some things that too many of our progs just don't know. Hell many conservatives don't know all these things.
Aw, c'mon roy more of Becks' "Axis of progressive evil" again???
Truly this is getting tiresome.
Let us know when you stop watching Beck and actually meet a real live "progressive" member of our Congress, ok? Thanks
lmkcin wrote:
I lost all respect for Bush way back when he revealed his true colors.
When the government is permitted to steal from even one of us, it diminishes everyone’s freedom.
Now that I somewhat agree with. However, we need to return to a truly free market – that’s what made our country great and enabled it to become the most generous nation in the world.
Sorry, but the rest of your post was just too bizarre for to respond to.
How is the government stealing? What is it stealing? Money?
Listen there are two kinds of people. Those who hate taxes, and those who also hate taxes but understand they need to exist. Think of paying taxes as like fee, or membership. You get a ton of benefits for really not a lot of money. Like schools, hospitals, roads, a military. If they eliminated income taxes, where would the raise the money. It would have to come from buisnesses and corporate taxes, in which case it would just be passed along to the consumer anyway. Imagine a loaf of bread having a 50% tax on it...
The last time we had anything that resembled a "free" market was back in the 1920s and we all know how that worked out. Most of the problem in today's recession is that the Conservatives and Republican ketp deregularizing the market, corpoarte greed took over and yada, yada, yada, here we are. Buisness needs to be regulated. Not for it's sake, it'll will always do fine, but you, me, and the future's sake.
Should we get rid of child labor laws? Get rid of unions--who protect the worker (I'm not a fan either--but the serve a purpose), should we allow monopolies...these things would happen if we let a truly free market reign. Life in this country would revert back to 1890. There would be no middle class--we wouldn't stand a chance against corporations and other enormous organizations.
You should learn more about what Teddy Roosevelt did as president. One of my favorites.
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But that's okay. He's entertainment, basically. There was a thread here about whether he should be taken off the air...No way! He's a real character, and probably pushes more people away from his line of thinking than he could possibly imagine, simply by being so crazily over-the-top. 
