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Old 04-02-2010, 12:35 PM
 
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and loss of productivity from smokers taking numerous breaks then that's their right too.
This has nothing to do with the work environment but instead what people are doing during their free time. If a company says no smoke breaks then so be it, actually I don't see why any company would provide time specifically for smoker to go smoke unless they were providing this break time for all the employees.
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Old 04-02-2010, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Up in the air
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This has nothing to do with the work environment but instead what people are doing during their free time. If a company says no smoke breaks then so be it, actually I don't see why any company would provide time specifically for smoker to go smoke unless they were providing this break time for all the employees.
I think you'd be surprised. At the last two places I worked, one of the managers was a smoker and would take multiple smoke breaks during the day. Since a lot of the employees smoked, they would do the same. I, as a non-smoker, was not given the luxury of multiple 10 minute breaks during the day...I had my two tens and a half hour lunch.
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Old 04-02-2010, 03:19 PM
 
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How about nicotine and tolerance? Does ones heart fail to respond to it after years and years of smoking? Surely you have that close at hand since you seemed to be so hot on arsenic. I thought this thread was about nicotine and use of it.
The negative effects of nicotine are easily mitigated or thwarted by compensatory supplementations. Might even produce a synergistic positive as an overall result.
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Old 04-02-2010, 07:52 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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PhillyBurbs.com: *St. Luke's Hospital to screen job applicants for nicotine use (http://www.phillyburbs.com/news/news_details/article/262/2010/march/31/st-lukes-hospital-to-screen-job-applicants-for-nicotine-use.html - broken link)

Yes it's true folks. No longer can you smoke if you work at certain places.

St. Luke's Hospital joins many other institutions that will now do routine nicotine screens with their drug testing pre-employment requirements.

Go ahead and laugh; salts next (or maybe alcohol or sugar or fat).

thats right folks, employers can drug test you for tobacco use, but goverment still cannot drug test people on the public dole such as welfare.
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Old 04-02-2010, 11:06 PM
 
Location: Somewhere gray and damp, close to the West Coast
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It is not "conform" but stop hurting and annoying me or you will be cast out. I don't care if you smoke but don't do it around me or I will, if I ask you to stop and you refuse, consider it an assault and take appropriate action.
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Old 04-02-2010, 11:11 PM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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It's past time.

(Waiting for the smoke-Nazi's to roll into this thread and start blathering about what a great idea this is because smoke is just SOOOOOO deadly!)
Ahem ... You called???
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Old 04-02-2010, 11:14 PM
 
Location: Hades
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I'm not really surprised. While it seems over the top, workers having nic fits on the job will most definitely lead to much poorer work performance. Having workers who are so distracted by their addiction and smoke breaks negatively impacts the job performance. I'm not against smoking, but heck, if they're gonna test for pot they might as well test for nicotine. Cigarette addiction has proven more deadly and addictive than the reefer so everything is pretty much as@ backwards anyway with drug testing regimens and laws.
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Old 04-02-2010, 11:21 PM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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I think you'd be surprised. At the last two places I worked, one of the managers was a smoker and would take multiple smoke breaks during the day. Since a lot of the employees smoked, they would do the same. I, as a non-smoker, was not given the luxury of multiple 10 minute breaks during the day...I had my two tens and a half hour lunch.
Which is plain wrong ... An addiction to nicotine should not entitle folks to more breaks than non-smokers.
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Old 04-02-2010, 11:48 PM
 
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Which is plain wrong ... An addiction to nicotine should not entitle folks to more breaks than non-smokers.
It would be OK as long as there was EQUAL time allocated away from work for EVERYONE'S INDIVIDUAL addiction.
And since all addictions seem to require frequent maintenance.......this should NOT be such a problem to fairly address in the workplace today.

Smokers NEED a cig. break no more than once an hour.....and long enough to huff down two, preferably.

Employers will likely need to accomodate all the medical marijuana smokers on the job, soon enough.
Fortunately.......they may only need to hit the pipe or smoke a jay about once in the a.m. and maybe one more toke later in the day.

Overeaters.......like to sit down and eat.....more so than grub on the job.
They can easily be accomodated as often as the cig. smokers. and should be happy.....just as long as they aren't breathing all the cigarette and pot smoke.
This includes all the phone yackers and gossip-freaks too.

Gamblers, drunks, junkies and all other addicted employees?

Sorry.....make it through your shift.

EQUAL TIME allocated.....for EACH employee's addiction maintenance....is crucial to maintain high company morale.
Ca-piche'?
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Old 04-03-2010, 01:35 AM
 
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Oh yeah?

Well, so is Socialism!
The urine test for Socialism, is to pis$ on the U.S. Constitution without hesitation or shyness.
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