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The FCC's goal is to keep content separated from infrastructure.
The cable company's goal is to charge you for content and bandwidth you weren't getting charged for beforehand.
But what more can I expect from white noise and slippery slope posters.
And you think you won't get charged for bandwidth with FCC regulation? Got insurance?
And how is your service provider going to charge you for content? Will they monitor the IP address of your download source? Then what? Interrupt the download?
Comcast fixed the problem 2 years ago - has anything else cropped up to make you believe this will be happening?
They fixed it because the FCC stepped in. If the FCC didn't do anything they would have started tiering pricing.
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And you think you won't get charged for bandwidth with FCC regulation? Got insurance?
What? No the companies control that because it's over their system.
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And how is your service provider going to charge you for content? Will they monitor the IP address of your download source? Then what? Interrupt the download?
They can block content the same way that workplaces block content. It's called white or black listing. They can also monitor and throttle data coming from certain ports, which I assume is how they will throttle bittorrent traffic. They will also be in a position where they need to start monitoring and caring what data you're transferring since they need to either throttle it or prevent you from accessing it, and if net neutrality is abolished they will be legally obligated to make sure illegal traffic is not conducted over their system since they will be liable.
Where does it say they have the authority to do any of the things you have listed? The cable companies actually have the authority to tier and limit bandwidth.
They fixed it because the FCC stepped in. If the FCC didn't do anything they would have started tiering pricing.
No, they didn't.
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A three-judge panel in Washington, D.C. unanimously tossed out the FCC's August 2008 cease and desist order against Comcast, which had taken measures to slow BitTorrent transfers before voluntarily ending them earlier that year.
They fixed it because the FCC stepped in. If the FCC didn't do anything they would have started tiering pricing.
Excellent example.
Do you have telephone service? As in AT*T or Verizon. That phone service is regulated by the FCC. So, thru that phone service you pay for certain products and services... tiered pricing.
And now you want the FCC to control your data service?
Your ISP does one thing only. That is the DSLAM connection where your speed is controlled. From there your internet connection goes directly to the nearest ATM and from there on... IT'S THE WORLD WIDE WEB, BABY ! ! !
The ISP has got NOTHING to do with what you do on the web. NOTHING!
When whatever you're doing... the URL comes back it comes back to that same ATM then to the DSLAM where YOUR ISP redirects the content to your PC.
So you're paying the ISP for your internet connection speed... alone. And hey, if you didn't want to pay the price today you can switch back to dialup. And it's NOT going to change the content.
At the time the cease&desist was ordered, the FCC knew full well they didn't have the authority.
The two sides worked it out.
In the interim, has Comcast done anything to make you believe your worst nightmares?
Apparently they didn't since they went through with it anyway. Although you seem to be in favor of the FCC's involvement since "the two sides worked it out", so at least there is some common ground here (the FCC did a good thing and neither of us wants the internet to move in that direction).
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Please provide the links showing that is what they were going to do.
Sure, around the time that the FCC started telling them that it was "bad news":
Do you have telephone service? As in AT*T or Verizon. That phone service is regulated by the FCC. So, thru that phone service you pay for certain products and services... tiered pricing.
And now you want the FCC to control your data service?
Your ISP does one thing only. That is the DSLAM connection where your speed is controlled. From there your internet connection goes directly to the nearest ATM and from there on... IT'S THE WORLD WIDE WEB, BABY ! ! !
The ISP has got NOTHING to do with what you do on the web. NOTHING!
When whatever you're doing... the URL comes back it comes back to that same ATM then to the DSLAM where YOUR ISP redirects the content to your PC.
So you're paying the ISP for your internet connection speed... alone. And hey, if you didn't want to pay the price today you can switch back to dialup. And it's NOT going to change the content.
Eh, I'm done talking to the uneducated minority.
Good luck convincing people that net neutrality, aka the status quo, is a bad thing and that corporations have no real power.
Your argument is "this will never happen because I know the free market", my argument is "this is legally possible for the time being and corporations operate within the framework of the law".
Good luck convincing people that net neutrality, aka the status quo, is a bad thing and that corporations have no real power.
Translation: All my points and arguments have been reduced to ash, so now I'll slink away, but before I do, I'll just throw out the usual insults when on the losing end of the argument.
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The FCC's goal is to keep content separated from infrastructure.
The cable company's goal is to charge you for content and bandwidth you weren't getting charged for beforehand.
But what more can I expect from white noise and slippery slope posters.
Exactly 100% right. Why would Comcast want you to be able to watch a TV show from Zulu for free when they sell the same show for $1 with On Demand? That is what this is about. Like I said, I already pay for 6mps access. I don't want my ISP telling me where I can go and what I can see.
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