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Old 04-07-2010, 07:32 AM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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I figure every where has been stolen by some one at some time. The Brits did not beat the Turks in WW1. They beat the Germans and received Palestine as spoils of war. Nobody asked the Palestinians what they though of the deal. They were ignored then just as they are ignored today.
oh wow. I bet lots of dead ANZACs and their British compatriots would roll in their graves and want to offer you a history book. Ever heard of Gallipoli?

 
Old 04-07-2010, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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I figure every where has been stolen by some one at some time. The Brits did not beat the Turks in WW1. They beat the Germans and received Palestine as spoils of war. Nobody asked the Palestinians what they though of the deal. They were ignored then just as they are ignored today.
PS: Did the Turks consider the feelings of the palestinians either during their multicentury rule ?
 
Old 04-07-2010, 08:06 AM
 
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Is this Politics or History category ?
 
Old 04-07-2010, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Vermont
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Is this Politics or History category ?
Based on the quote from Netanyahu it might just as well be the Mythology category.
 
Old 04-07-2010, 08:43 AM
 
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I figure every where has been stolen by some one at some time. The Brits did not beat the Turks in WW1. They beat the Germans and received Palestine as spoils of war. Nobody asked the Palestinians what they though of the deal. They were ignored then just as they are ignored today.
Would that be the Palestinian Arabs or the Palestinian Jews?
 
Old 04-07-2010, 08:45 AM
 
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Would that be the Palestinian Arabs or the Palestinian Jews?
Nobody asked the native americans either, yet lefties seem to have no issue with that... Different standard for Jews though.
 
Old 04-07-2010, 09:20 AM
 
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I figure every where has been stolen by some one at some time. The Brits did not beat the Turks in WW1. They beat the Germans and received Palestine as spoils of war. Nobody asked the Palestinians what they though of the deal. They were ignored then just as they are ignored today.
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Would that be the Palestinian Arabs or the Palestinian Jews?
Willys, good point.

GregW, you need to brush upon your history:
You obviously don't know the history of the area and are confused by the name. Palestine is simply a historical name. It has nothing to do with Arabs. The area was named Palestine by the Romans, derived from the word Philistine.
Before the state of Israel, the term "Palestine" and "Palestinians" referred to Jews and the Jewish community. Jews created the Palestine Post, the Palestine Symphony Orchestra, the Palestine Electric Company. They even represented Palestine in the 1936 Olympics. "Palestine" and "Jews" became interchangeable. After Israel took control of those areas in a war of survival in 1967, there suddenly appeared a "Palestinian people".

This canard of historical "ownership" and an Arab national history in Palestine was created by Arafat's PLO in the late 20th century and has been promulgated ever since then. The concept of a "Palestinian people" or nation exists in a political context, not an historical one.
"There has never been a land known as Palestine governed by Palestinians. Palestinians are Arabs, indistinguishable from Jordanians (another recent invention), Syrians, Iraqis, etc. Keep in mind that the Arabs control 99.9 percent of the Middle East lands. Israel represents one-tenth of one percent of the landmass. But that's too much for the Arabs. They want it all. And that is ultimately what the fighting in Israel is about today... No matter how many land concessions the Israelis make, it will never be enough". Joseph Farah, "Myths of the Middle East"
Palestinian Myths
You need to bone up on your history, friend.
 
Old 04-07-2010, 09:23 AM
 
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But its not his right to ruin other people's lives just because they have a diffrent religion than he does.
true! and he is NOT DOING THAT AT ALL.
 
Old 04-07-2010, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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Willys, good point.

GregW, you need to brush upon your history:
You obviously don't know the history of the area and are confused by the name. Palestine is simply a historical name. It has nothing to do with Arabs. The area was named Palestine by the Romans, derived from the word Philistine.
Before the state of Israel, the term "Palestine" and "Palestinians" referred to Jews and the Jewish community. Jews created the Palestine Post, the Palestine Symphony Orchestra, the Palestine Electric Company. They even represented Palestine in the 1936 Olympics. "Palestine" and "Jews" became interchangeable. After Israel took control of those areas in a war of survival in 1967, there suddenly appeared a "Palestinian people".

This canard of historical "ownership" and an Arab national history in Palestine was created by Arafat's PLO in the late 20th century and has been promulgated ever since then. The concept of a "Palestinian people" or nation exists in a political context, not an historical one.
"There has never been a land known as Palestine governed by Palestinians. Palestinians are Arabs, indistinguishable from Jordanians (another recent invention), Syrians, Iraqis, etc. Keep in mind that the Arabs control 99.9 percent of the Middle East lands. Israel represents one-tenth of one percent of the landmass. But that's too much for the Arabs. They want it all. And that is ultimately what the fighting in Israel is about today... No matter how many land concessions the Israelis make, it will never be enough". Joseph Farah, "Myths of the Middle East"
Palestinian Myths
You need to bone up on your history, friend.
The funnier thing is that libs seem to not care that Egypt and Jordan occupied the Gaza and the WB from 1948-1967 and didn't give the Palestinians independence.
 
Old 04-07-2010, 09:39 AM
 
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The funnier thing is that libs seem to not care that Egypt and Jordan occupied the Gaza and the WB from 1948-1967 and didn't give the Palestinians independence.
Yes, of course not. That's because there was no "Palestinian people" at that time (and therefore no need for a "Palestinian" state). The term didn't exist - not in history books, not in the media, nowhere -until it was invented by the Arabs in the 1970's for political purposes after Israel had control of those areas.
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