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...not if you, as the one being rescued, having nothing even approximating the capacity to understand what's happening.
Also...since you feel this way, that even one life saved is one life saved, you're all for assistance programs for those already born, right? Even if you just feed one that's legitimately in need and can't work.
I'm sure if an abortion is medically necessary after 20 week some sort of anesthetic can be used to get around this.
I'm sure too. Actually, I was reading up on this and a lethal injection is typically given to the fetus before the extraction is begun. I'll provide links if anyone wants them but one was in Wiki under "Late Term Abortion."
What type of procedure are you referring to here? And can I have a link as to evidence of that claim?
And yet again...this is NOT exactly a huge rescue mission. It's a stunt, and the perpetrators should be ashamed of their hypocrisy. Yes, all of them.
Okay. Whatever you say. Next time, you take the time to get the appropriate degree, study the available peer reviewed science, and take time to present to the legislature. Then you will get what you want.
Read the testimony and perhaps you will learn something. This scientific approach, which eliminates the subjectivity regarding the dates at which "life begins", will be presented in other states. The evidence cannot be refuted, therefore it is a very compelling argument which can sway even liberals.
Tell me....................... Suppose you were a patient undergoing a surgical procedure, and could not relate tissue injury and perception of pain, as you have been rendered incapable of doing so, due to neuromuscular blocking agents and the fact that you are intubated, and so cannot speak. You would be completely at the mercy of those operating on you, who, by virtue of somatosensory evoked potentials (to evaluate spinal cord integrity), physiological changes, or intra-op EEG changes to determine neural integrity and the assurance that you would not feel pain. Is this fair? Or would you prefer a crap shoot and just gamble that perhaps your spinal cord may be damaged, or perhaps you would feel everything during a surgical procedure?
Now imagine a fetus with fully developed pain pathways. That fetus cannot object to being dismembered, nor can the fetus show signs of physiogical distress at being dismembered, as there is no monitoring to document such pain. However,these pathways are fully developed and the monitoring of such manifestations, both directly and indirectly, confirm this.
Anyone up for being drawn and quartered while perfectly alert? If so, you are a proponant of late term abortions. If not, you are an opponant. It is quite simple and something that even a liberal can understand.
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...not if you, as the one being rescued, having nothing even approximating the capacity to understand what's happening.
Also...since you feel this way, that even one life saved is one life saved, you're all for assistance programs for those already born, right? Even if you just feed one that's legitimately in need and can't work.
This. Move. Is. A. Stunt.
People gain that capacity after they are born. You would deny them that.
And government assistance programs don't save lives.
Have heard that newly aborted children are deep in remorse when they meet God. They have no understanding why their mothers had them butchered.
Maybe the State of Nebraska can work on the emotional pain of the fetus after they decide when absolutely a fetus feels nerve pain while being lacerated apart.
Have heard that newly aborted children are deep in remorse when they meet God. They have no understanding why their mothers had them butchered.
Maybe the State of Nebraska can work on the emotional pain of the fetus after they decide when absolutely a fetus feels nerve pain while being lacerated apart.
And government assistance programs don't save lives.
Oh good grief. Selective blindness. It doesn't? Eating, as opposed to not eating, doesn't save a life? Or is this one of those "yeah, but they're all lying and driving around in Rolls Royces" selective ignorance things? Okay, taking your scenario that 1% "saving" is worth it, then even if 1% of people on government assistance are saved (by food, shelter, medical care), how could you of all people decide it's bogus?
Please. The hypocrisy.
Okay. So. Aborting a fetus that is already dead within the womb (yep, it happens...it happened to my best friend with her second child, actually), or who lacks a brain (anencephaly), or is otherwise destined to die but much more painfully if allowed to develop further (since the nerves generally will be developing further too), isn't taking a life. And medical reasons account for a percentage of late-term abortions. We're narrowing this gap of "saved" late-term fetuses even more. You see what you want to see: HUGE numbers of women are aborting well developed fetuses willy-nilly. This is so untrue and so slanted. Look at the actual facts and you'll be embarrassed.
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