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Old 04-10-2010, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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Originally Posted by hippydippyman View Post
In this economy they are not likely to get good paying jobs and they seem to be quite content making minimum wage.
So you ***** about the fact they got tax credits, and now you ***** about them working a low paying job to support themselves.

Maybe you'd be happier if they paid no taxes and went on government assistance.

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I think some missed the point. They did not get a "REFUND". They got back MORE than they paid in taxes.

That is what is unfair.
My question would be how the OP's knows what they paid in taxes and again, why he's worried about something that isn't his business to begin with.
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Old 04-10-2010, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Aloha, Oregon
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My friend's daughter and daughter-in-law received more than $4000 from the IRS. They paid nothing near that in taxes but the fact that they attended a junior college qualified them for "credits". I guess this is my wealth being redistributed. I can tell you that these two young women will not spend the money wisely.
Why are you worried about this when so much more of your taxes are spent on the Military Industrial Complex. Your taxes are being redistributed to the very wealthy in these industries.
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Old 04-10-2010, 06:28 PM
 
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Why are you worried about this when so much more of your taxes are spent on the Military Industrial Complex. Your taxes are being redistributed to the very wealthy in these industries.
Just call me stupid but I think money spent on keeping our country safe is good. I think money spent for welfare moms or single college students is absurd.
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Old 04-10-2010, 06:32 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Just call me stupid but I think money spent on keeping our country safe is good. I think money spent for welfare moms or single college students is absurd.
The United States pays out 3 times more money, than our closest competitor on military expenditures.

We spend 1/2 what most of the industrialized world does on education.

Now, you tell me where our priorities should be. Even if we paid twice what our nearest military competitor does for national defense, that'd still be 12% more roughly of our GDP that could either be spent on paying down the debt, or furthering our childrens education.
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Old 04-10-2010, 06:32 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Exactly. These two young women are not likely to ever be real taxpayers. One is 23 years old with 4 children and the other is 25 years old with a history of having multiple jobs from which she was fired.
Oh, come on! At 23 and 25 you're writing them off? People grow up. Some just take longer.
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Old 04-10-2010, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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^ part of the reason we are trillions of dollars in debt.

Heck its not our money. Why should we get a say so in the money we work to earn

So does that mean you'll just pass out your money and not want it to be accounted for?
Because it's not our money. If you buy goods or services from a business, it's no longer your money, it's belongs to the business. This is basically the same thing. We pay money to the government in exchange for the goods and services they provide. In this case, the young person is basically being told "in exchange for your work (in this case, attending college) we'll give you a break on the bill."

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These kind if handouts encourage people to reach for the bottom.
A tax credit provided to young people to attend college is a handout and encourages them to reach for the bottom.

Oooookay.
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Old 04-10-2010, 06:35 PM
 
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Vote for a 12% flat tax for anyone making over 40k/year.
I think we can up that percentage.
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Old 04-10-2010, 06:35 PM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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The United States pays out 3 times more money, than our closest competitor on military expenditures.
It's actually worse than that. We pay more in military costs than the next 50 countries COMBINED.
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Old 04-10-2010, 06:36 PM
 
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Oh, come on! At 23 and 25 you're writing them off? People grow up. Some just take longer.
Not likely. The 23 year old with children was raised in a welfare home. The 25 year old is bipolar and not likely to ever be gainfully employed. She also refuses to admit she is ill and will not seek treatment.
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Old 04-10-2010, 06:37 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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I think we can up that percentage.
Yep, it would need to be, roughly 20%. Thats if you leave SSI and medicare taxes alone as they are now.

If you take all taxes, and try to lump them into one tax, it'd be around 35% per person making above 40K a year.

That'd still be cheaper than I'm paying now, counting SS and Medicare.
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