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Old 04-13-2010, 07:19 PM
 
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I am laughing at people expecting the unions to really look out for the people they collect money from. Unions have a history of going into bed with companies.
You really don't have a clue do you?
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Old 04-13-2010, 07:32 PM
 
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You really don't have a clue do you?

Oh I have a clue all right. I have a cousin that was a union steward until he retired.
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Old 04-13-2010, 07:34 PM
 
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Oh I have a clue all right. I have a cousin that was a union steward until he retired.
You must really hate your cousin huh?
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Old 04-13-2010, 07:35 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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I am laughing at people expecting the unions to really look out for the people they collect money from. Unions have a history of going into bed with companies.
1) This mine where all those people died was NOT unionized.

2) If you think the miners unions have not done anything besides collect money from their members, you need to take a course in mining history. The days of various mine owners using machine guns on their workers are long gone, thanks to a union. I won't bother to list any of their other achievements because you aren't interested in learning anything that doesn't fit with your agenda.
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Oh I have a clue all right. I have a cousin that was a union steward until he retired.
So you judge thousands of people and a 125 years of union history by your one cousin, do you? That makes sense for a fan of Rush, I guess.
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Old 04-13-2010, 07:37 PM
 
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Statistically fatalities in union vs. non-union mines show a very slight advantage working in a union mine, however since the overall combined fatality rate is so low you cannot make any meaningful comparison.
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Old 04-13-2010, 07:40 PM
 
Location: Aloha, Oregon
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I am laughing at people expecting the unions to really look out for the people they collect money from. Unions have a history of going into bed with companies.
There have been bad unions in the past, so to you that makes them all bad? You can find bad apples anywhere, bad companies and bad corporations doesn't make them all bad. Does it?
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Old 04-13-2010, 08:03 PM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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Rush made $24 million last year, what business is he in.

The UNIONS sent RESCUE WORKERS and were turned away by Massey
I don't ask for links often, but I would like to see one on this. My wife is from WV. My FIL is a retired coal miner. A non union WV coal mine seems odd to me. Those folks are heavy duty union, and if Massey turned away union rescue workers, union shop or no, he better be ready to have his house burned down. West Virginians are a tight knit bunch of folks. Riling them up is not wise. Especially when it comes down to those they love getting hurt and killed trying to make a living. I have spent a LOT of time back there, and I respect the folks in West by God Virginia. They will NOT bow down to anyone who hurts them, and they don't need politicians, unions, talk show hosts , or even left wing defenders of the faith getting in thier business right now. This mine will pay for the blood spilled. That I guarantee. One way or another. God Bless these miners, and thier families. My heart goes out to them. Union, non union, F*** that!!! Those guys would have done the job that day the same way whether they were union or not. Danger goes with the job, and they are proud folks there. "Git er done" is more than a catch phrase for a WV miner. I'm NOT defending Massey, far from it, I believe that guys like him capitalize on the aforementioned attitude, and prey on people who need to feed their families, and risk death to do so. This is NOT a left wing , right wing thing. Or a union , non union thing. It is about community, American spirit, and what AMERICAN workers will do to get the job done. Massey knows he is in deep ****. Maybe he thinks he can hush it all up with payouts to the families, but I doubt that will happen. If the union has been kept out, that is over, for sure. THIS is where unions ARE needed. They have forgotten the folks who really need them, and have been far to complacent about safety, in favor of wages and benefits. Sometimes. there ain't no amount of money worth it. The unions need to quit worrying about how much they can make in dues, and start concentrating on taking care of the people who pay them. Sorry , nobody, union , non union, up for re-election or no, management or workforce, can take this back, or say anything to make it all better. This mine WILL go back into production, and things WILL change. At least that is my fervent hope.
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Old 04-13-2010, 08:53 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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NVplumber:

You didn't ask me for the link but I'll just back up Boompa by saying it was reported on TV that Massey turned away union rescue workers.
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Old 04-13-2010, 09:20 PM
 
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I recall seeing the same thing on TV news report, Massey turned away union rescue workers.

However getting back on topic,,, isn't is sad that Rush can't get the information correct about this story before he comments. I'm still wondering when he's leaving the country and moving out?
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Old 04-13-2010, 09:31 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Thumbs down Limbaugh Wonders ‘Where Was The Union’ At Mine Disaster

From the day of the explosion, news reports made it clear that Big Branch was not a union operation.

Big FAT Idiot
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