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Old 04-14-2010, 02:31 PM
 
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So they dumped tea into Boston Harbor. How does this relate to the "Tea Party" movement of today?

Inquiring minds want to know.
For the same reason Democrats call themself Democrats even though we arent a Democratic nation, nor is the party..
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Old 04-14-2010, 02:33 PM
 
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thing is, though, any idiot with a microphone can talk about lowering taxes.

the real issues are what services to cut.

one of my biggest taxes is Medicare. Yet I see tea partiers with signs saying, "Don't cut Medicare." I find it puzzling.
If you paid into something with the promise of a return later on, why would it be "puzzling" to have the expectation of it being there?
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Old 04-14-2010, 02:33 PM
 
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You will need the Medicare you pay into some day if you live that long.
you don't know that. we have no idea what the US healthcare system will look like, if I live that long.

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If you paid into something with the promise of a return later on, why would it be "puzzling" to have the expectation of it being there?
that does not reflect reality. if I pay $40,000 into Medicare during my working years, you won't see me picketing with a sign when I'm 50, demanding $250,000 worth of Medicare benefits. These numbers are arbitrary, but the fact is many of these "low tax tea partiers" are trying to take far more out of the system than they ever paid in.

Many older americans have this sense of entitlement based on a fantasy about what y'all actually contributed.
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Old 04-14-2010, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Southeast Arizona
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It's pretty easy really.

The Boston Tea Party was carried out because of the tax rates the English implemented on tea. So it was a tax revolt in 1773, as in "we aren't paying for anymore of this overtaxed garbage".

Thus Tea Party movements today, it's symbolic. I see nothing wrong with a tax revolt in our times, if anything we need it, badly.
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Old 04-14-2010, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Aloha, Oregon
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For the same reason Democrats call themself Democrats even though we arent a Democratic nation, nor is the party..
Huh? That's no answer. Besides saying we arn't a Democratic nation, is only half correct.

Please try better next time.
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Old 04-14-2010, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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one of my biggest taxes is Medicare. Yet I see tea partiers with signs saying, "Don't cut Medicare." I find it puzzling.
It shouldn't really be all that puzzling when you have several generations of workers who have had part of their salaries confiscated to put into a fund that was supposed to make their retirement years more comfortable. Both Social Security and Medicare were created because too many workers didn't have the will power to set aside money on their own to support themselves when they no longer worked. So after decades of paying into a system that they expected to provide support and care in their retirements, they get kinda pissed off hearing that they won't actually be getting the money they were promised. It is all about broken promises. Retirement age workers don't have the option of getting a "do-over" or of making more fiscally responsible choices once they have left the workforce.
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Old 04-14-2010, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Imaginary Figment
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So they dumped tea into Boston Harbor. How does this relate to the "Tea Party" movement of today?

Inquiring minds want to know.
Because they are totally clueless.
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Old 04-14-2010, 02:41 PM
 
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Taxed
Enough
Already
Now I'm confused. On one thread the right is bemoaning the fact that only 47% of the American public pays income taxes. Then I listen to the teabaggers and the argument that they are paying too much. So should I assume that teabaggers represent the upper 50% of the income bracket?
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Old 04-14-2010, 02:43 PM
 
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It's pretty easy really.

The Boston Tea Party was carried out because of the tax rates the English implemented on tea. So it was a tax revolt in 1773, as in "we aren't paying for anymore of this overtaxed garbage".
"No taxation without representation". The revolt was because they weren't represented in Parliament.
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Old 04-14-2010, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Aloha, Oregon
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It's pretty easy really.

The Boston Tea Party was carried out because of the tax rates the English implemented on tea. So it was a tax revolt in 1773, as in "we aren't paying for anymore of this overtaxed garbage".

Thus Tea Party movements today, it's symbolic. I see nothing wrong with a tax revolt in our times, if anything we need it, badly.
The tea from the British East India Co. was tax free, so why did the colonists dump the tea in the Boston Harbor?
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