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Old 04-17-2010, 12:34 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Wrong. It's NOT called an "OFFICIAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE"...even here in Hawaii.

I suggest that you get your facts right. You don't have clue number one as to what the difference between a valid birth certificate and a certificate o live birth actually is.
It is by law an official birth certificate. It is legal and valid for anyone who needs to show a birth certificate for any reason.

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Old 04-17-2010, 09:15 PM
 
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It is by law an official birth certificate. It is legal and valid for anyone who needs to show a birth certificate for any reason.
Wrong again. The COLB was issued to many who weren't born in Hawaii. In order for the COLB to be considered "valid", it has to be accompanied by the traditional "long-form" birth certificate, which has the name of the hospital, the attending physicians name and signature, on it. The COLB has none of that information. Check it out for yourself. And that's not even taking into consideration that the COLB on record has been deemed a forgery by several experts in the field. Wrong paper.....text redacted...even though there is a disclaimer on the bottom of the COLB that says any alterations invalidate the form.

When zero was born, there were only two hospitals in Honolulu. Zero's sister said he was born in one. He says he was born in the other. Until last year, there was no record whatsoever of zero or his mother ever being in either hospital. Then, almost like magic, Kapiolani suddenly announces that they have his birth certificate on record. Problem is that it is not the hospital that his sister says he was born in. Another problem is that Hawaii law does not allow for birth records to be released except by permission of the person named on the BC...or by his family. Do you think those visits to Hawaii were just to visit his ailing grandmother...or to have a vacation? Then you are more gullible than a line of giggily chorus girls being told they are going to be Hollywood stars.

My wife is a born and raised local, with over thirty years in the medical profession, and she knows what constitutes a valid birth certificate, and she says that what zero has presented doesn't meet the requirements for validity. And now we have statements from respected Kenyan officials who confirm that zero was actually born in Kenya...making zero's claim of being born in Honolulu irrelevant.

If there were a genuine long-form BC on record, all zero would have to do to end all debate is to release it.....as every US president before him has done with theirs. Instead, he has spent over $1.7 million to prevent ANY of his records from being released. In any sane persons mind, that would indicate that zero has something he's hiding, and since libbies like you don't care a whit about the truth, the obvious conclusion is that you're not sane.
 
Old 04-17-2010, 09:54 PM
 
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The long-form thing has been discredited since Hawai'i itself has stated that a Certificate of Live Birth is a valid birth certificate. He has released his birth record. Numerous lawsuits have been thrown out as baseless. All the assertions of forgery have been disproven. A woman who watched Obama being born in Hawai'i is on record. Of course there are the announcements in the papers.

Seriously. Let it go. It's over.

And you should know that referring to your president as "zero" undermines any credibility you might have had regarding other issues. It just reveals your bias and unwillingless to view this issue with objectivity. You want your president to fail, so you demean him and actively seek ways to expedite failure. Very immature.

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The Department of Hawaiian Home Lands accepts both Certificates of Live Birth (original birth certificate) and Certifications of Live Birth because they are official government records documenting an individual's birth. The Certificate of Live Birth generally has more information which is useful for genealogical purposes as compared to the Certification of Live Birth which is a computer-generated printout that provides specific details of a person's birth. Although original birth certificates (Certificates of Live Birth) are preferred for their greater detail, the State Department of Health (DOH) no longer issues Certificates of Live Birth. When a request is made for a copy of a birth certificate, the DOH issues a Certification of Live Birth.
 
Old 04-17-2010, 09:54 PM
 
Location: Middletown, Ohio
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Lightbulb Ohhhh Boy...Here We Go Again

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Originally Posted by Sunshadow View Post
Wrong again. The COLB was issued to many who weren't born in Hawaii. In order for the COLB to be considered "valid", it has to be accompanied by the traditional "long-form" birth certificate, which has the name of the hospital, the attending physicians name and signature, on it. The COLB has none of that information. Check it out for yourself. And that's not even taking into consideration that the COLB on record has been deemed a forgery by several experts in the field. Wrong paper.....text redacted...even though there is a disclaimer on the bottom of the COLB that says any alterations invalidate the form.

When zero was born, there were only two hospitals in Honolulu. Zero's sister said he was born in one. He says he was born in the other. Until last year, there was no record whatsoever of zero or his mother ever being in either hospital. Then, almost like magic, Kapiolani suddenly announces that they have his birth certificate on record. Problem is that it is not the hospital that his sister says he was born in. Another problem is that Hawaii law does not allow for birth records to be released except by permission of the person named on the BC...or by his family. Do you think those visits to Hawaii were just to visit his ailing grandmother...or to have a vacation? Then you are more gullible than a line of giggily chorus girls being told they are going to be Hollywood stars.

My wife is a born and raised local, with over thirty years in the medical profession, and she knows what constitutes a valid birth certificate, and she says that what zero has presented doesn't meet the requirements for validity. And now we have statements from respected Kenyan officials who confirm that zero was actually born in Kenya...making zero's claim of being born in Honolulu irrelevant.

If there were a genuine long-form BC on record, all zero would have to do to end all debate is to release it.....as every US president before him has done with theirs. Instead, he has spent over $1.7 million to prevent ANY of his records from being released. In any sane persons mind, that would indicate that zero has something he's hiding, and since libbies like you don't care a whit about the truth, the obvious conclusion is that you're not sane.
First of all, 'libby' is the brand name of popular line of canned goods, not some snarky one-off nickname you choose to brand anyone who doesn't buy what you're selling...

Secondly, this childish-a** practice of attempting to demean the President by calling him anything other than his given name (which, by the way, ain't 'zero'---give me a break) is getting old and tiresome...that dog don't hunt, so try something else

Thirdly, and this is something I keep repeating, but some folk seem to miss the message, so I'll say it again---EVERYONE WHO VOTED FOR AND/OR SUPPORTS THE PRESIDENT IS NOT A D**N LIBERAL!!!...I swear, that seems to be the stereotype of choice to lump in anyone who doesn't believe what you believe, and has the cojones to disagree with you...

And finally, I really wish those from the 'other side of the aisle' would actually spend 5 minutes stating what their people would do if elected in 2010 and 2012...puffing out your chests, waving the flag and the Constitution, and carrying comically misspelled signs at rallies,and hollering 'just you wait til November!!!', only tells potential voters that you're spring-loaded to the highest form of p***ed-offedness, but says NOTHING about what you ACTUALLY STAND FOR, so folks can make a reasonable decision at the polls
 
Old 04-18-2010, 01:48 AM
 
Location: Imaginary Figment
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With the movement in this country being so anti-Obama policies based on his mistakes and failures I can see him being forced to at least think about it.

The majority of those who voted for him would love to take back their vote and they know they made a huge mistake.

His apologizing all over the world is making us less safe every day.

His economic team he so valued as the greatest team ever assemble have been total failures.

His wanted to force socialism down our throats is causing more and more American who do not want it to stand up.

He is a lame ducking walking and needs to understand that the majority of Americans are watching him like a hawk and we wont allow him to continue to take us down a road to European socialism.

It is clear he cannot handle the job and needs to stop stealing our money for his paycheck as he clearly is not fit for the job.

Anyone else who would do such a lousy job in a high position would have been fired by now.

The biggest mistake in American political history was the election of this moronic socialist.

On the other hand he is a gift that keeps on giving to us.

The end of liberals running America is getting near.

We will take back our country from the socialistic liberals.

We out number them by millions and can force them to work for us, which is suppose to be the way it is.

Obama has shredded our constitution to pieces and we cannot stand for it any longer.

Resign now before you make a total fool of yourself any more then you already have.
This post is like diarrhea of the keyboard.
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