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Old 04-15-2010, 11:38 AM
 
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A progressive income tax is immoral. How can an immoral tax make sense?
A flat tax is immoral.
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Old 04-15-2010, 11:41 AM
 
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A flat tax is immoral.
Are you calling God immoral? What do you call the tithe but a flat tax?
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Old 04-15-2010, 11:45 AM
 
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Contrary to popular belief, the government cannot tax rights it secures.

Income taxation is not a tax on income, but upon the revenue taxable activity, for which the rate of tax is based on income. (Ex: corporate dividends - based on usury - and thus a privilege.)

The income tax on wages is authorized by voluntary participation in national socialism (FICA / Social Security Act of 1935).

So in that sense, both forms of income taxation are voluntary and thus "fair".

If you didn't know how and when you volunteered, then you might feel it is "unfair".

Write a polite letter to your representative, and ask for a copy of the law that imposes a tax upon the wages of all Americans. Ask for a copy of the law that levies a tax upon your right to labor and your right to life. You may be surprised by the response - or lack thereof.
That would be great if we had a government that acted lawfully. Unfortunately, we do not.

What you suggest is how it should work ... "should" being the operative term. How it actually works is that you may volunteer, and if you don't, you are prosecuted, and that portion you failed to volunteer will be taken at gunpoint, plus what ever penalties the overseers choose to impose ... including an extended stay in one of the federal hotels.
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Old 04-15-2010, 11:47 AM
 
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Are you calling God immoral? What do you call the tithe but a flat tax?

Hahaha, you can't be serious.
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Old 04-15-2010, 11:47 AM
 
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Are you calling God immoral? What do you call the tithe but a flat tax?
God doesn't need money ... people do. If you can't take it with you .. how do you expect to send it in ahead of time?
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Old 04-15-2010, 11:49 AM
 
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People like this are why the separation of church and state is so crucial. I don't want to live in a theocracy, thanks.
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Old 04-15-2010, 11:53 AM
 
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Are you calling God immoral?
No. I call god a figment of your imagination.
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What do you call the tithe but a flat tax?
I'm wondering why god needs money.
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Old 04-15-2010, 11:54 AM
 
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Yep, they scaled back what could have been Tea Party people to get the numbers they wanted. That is pure al Times procedure.
What does this mean?
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Old 04-15-2010, 11:56 AM
 
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The first sentence in incorrect. The second is an attempt at humor. The prefix "al" is an Arab word (meaning, basically; "the"). It's all about Muslims now. Communist humor is so 1980s. Where have you been?
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Old 04-15-2010, 11:57 AM
 
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A flat tax is immoral.
Any form of direct tax on someone's labor is immoral, simply because that is just another form of slavery.

If a man (or women) works 40 hours ... earns $800 ... and $800 was immediately taken from him ... he is a slave. If only $200 is taken, he's no less a slave ... it's just a matter of degree.

It's like the old joke .... a guy asks a women "will you have sex with me for a Million Dollars"? She says sure! ... then he asks "How about for $50"? She says, heck no, what do you think I am? "The guy says, we've already established what you are, now we're just haggling over price".
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