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Best way there is is to get a job and save a rich person from losing the money they possess ...in their best judgment ....such that they are willing to pay you from their nest egg as it's a cost-benefit win-win or is perceived to be by them...you must persuade them to this with good bargaining skills
1) innovation and/or hardwork to assist in their wealth creation and score a piece of it bigger than that which they generated themselves, such that they need you to stay rich in which case you can get richer than them
2) offering the rich person financial and strategic management plans to help their money work for them, in turn getting a piece of the pie
3) forcing rich hoarders to spend money where they need to whether they want to or not, such as becoming a consumer advocate and using legal expertise to challenge the legality of their wealth, forcing them to take regulations more seriously and close any loopholes they think they have on others because nobody can catch them, or else pay more in attorney fees
4) growing your own business to steer market share away from the already rich of the past
5) offering technological skills the rich person needs desperately
6) watching the kids and the dogs or cats of that very rich person and illustrating an uncanny trust of approval from those with deep pockets
The problem is not that the rich don't pay enough in taxes. It's that the government is intent on wasting billions of dollars on pork and pet projects. Cut the funding on these useless studies and delay funding on the ones that are NOT useless until we can afford to pay for it (which we probably could if you cut out all of the useless spending).
The "pork and pet projects" put money in the hands of people who consume, so it all ends up back in the system regardless.
The capitalists who cater to these (and all) consumers benefit.
It pays to own a stake in capitalism, regardless of taxes.
No so. The flawed economic system we use is geared towards them. Hard figures prove that.
The Swiss are considering a Citizens income. Enough to live on and more. It will give security and cut down welfare payments promoting production.
So socialism is the answer?
I fail to see the flawed system that we live in. I have seen lots of people start with nothing and become wealthy. Look at the Forbes 400. A large chunk of those people are self made. We live in a nation where people can become self made millionaires and billionaires. What other place on Earth offers that kind of freedom and chance?
The problem and maybe I am thinking more like you, those that made it on their own had to work for it. They had to give up fun, leisure, and other things to make it in life. They had to complain less and promote more. They probably decided that the 60 inch TV, new car, partying till midnight were just not worth it. Chances are debt was not used for fun and buying things were done not on time as in being in debt but by waiting to have the cash to buy.
What you are proposing is that we eliminate the work part of success and give it to all freely. I see your point. It may just work. We take from those that worked for it and give to those that don't want to work for it.
Silly little work, we don't want any more of it. We would rather sit here in chat rooms, forums, or social media sights and try to change the world so that those stupid people that work and build wealth can give it to us that are the smarter bunch. Not only do we not want to get our hands dirty with work we also want to fail to work and live off of those that do.
OK so I jest here. Still even Britney Spears gets it. In one of her songs she asks the question if people want to have a big home, nice car, take trips, even have a hot body. Her answer to all that in the song? Then you have to work for it. She, or whom ever wrote that song, realized that if you want it all you need to work to get it. Chances are she may have not written that song. I would bet that her producer wrote it although I am not sure. He is a man that has more #1 songs than anyone else in history. You may not know his name or if you saw him you would not know who he is. He has built a new worth of $250 million doing what he does. When he started he had a little of nothing. Chances are if you are listening to a station that Britney's music plays on you have heard other artist that happen to have hits from this one music producer.
The majority of people that are wealthy built that wealth. The reason that is the case? Most people that do not built fortunes understand how to keep them. Great fortunes can be wiped out. Even the Kennedy family is slowly eroding their massive fortune. Sure they still have it but few of them are adding to it.
Why should the rich be taken from and their wealth given to the poor? Isn't that what the Democrats are trying to do except they are waging a war on the middle class to give their haard earned money to the welfare state. The really rich either don't feel it or can hire smart people to take advantage of tax shelters etc..
Rich people do hire a lot of people and their wealth has a trickle down affect on many. Think about the wealthy business man that has a booming business and all the people that draw a paycheck from it.
I don't know why the current administration seems to portray these capitalists as evil. Maybe it is because a geat deal of them are Republicans?
In my experience you can give piles of money to the less fortunate and most of them would just blow it.
Why should the rich be taken from and their wealth given to the poor? Isn't that what the Democrats are trying to do except they are waging a war on the middle class to give their haard earned money to the welfare state. The really rich either don't feel it or can hire smart people to take advantage of tax shelters etc..
Rich people do hire a lot of people and their wealth has a trickle down affect on many. Think about the wealthy business man that has a booming business and all the people that draw a paycheck from it.
I don't know why the current administration seems to portray these capitalists as evil. Maybe it is because a geat deal of them are Republicans?
In my experience you can give piles of money to the less fortunate and most of them would just blow it.
Yep, if you take all the money and evenly distributed between every person so we all have ab equal amount, in 5 years, those that were rich before would be rich again. Those that were poor, would be poor again.
Yep, if you take all the money and evenly distributed between every person so we all have ab equal amount, in 5 years, those that were rich before would be rich again. Those that were poor, would be poor again.
All the money in the world evenly split between all people living on the planet? We would each have about $3,800.00 That is three thousand, eight hundred dollars. I have more than that now and I am no where near the 1% of the nation every one wants to take from. Realize we wouldn't be just taking the rich persons money this is all the money in the world evenly split. Means your money and my money, and all the people living in some poor country. Even the homeless man that is trying to get a few bucks to pay for that next beer.
The interesting thing is it wouldn't even take 5 years for the poor to lose that big $3,800 windfall. I bet it gets spent in a month or less.
Given that no one on the left changes his mind, and no one on the right changes his mind, and people in the middle don't really become either lefties or righties...
All the money in the world evenly split between all people living on the planet? We would each have about $3,800.00 That is three thousand, eight hundred dollars. I have more than that now and I am no where near the 1% of the nation every one wants to take from. Realize we wouldn't be just taking the rich persons money this is all the money in the world evenly split. Means your money and my money, and all the people living in some poor country. Even the homeless man that is trying to get a few bucks to pay for that next beer.
The interesting thing is it wouldn't even take 5 years for the poor to lose that big $3,800 windfall. I bet it gets spent in a month or less.
This is inaccurate. Global GDP per capita (i.e. total income and/or production per capita), adjusted for localized purchasing power, is about $12,500 per person per year. On a HOUSEHOLD level, we are talking about 30-50k per capita GDP per year (children and the elderly do not work, etc...). That's important, because wealth is not a stagnant construct but cycles throughout the economy as income or production over and over and over.
Global wealth, according to Credit Suisse, per adult is nearing $50k, and the ratio of adults-to-children the world over is nowhere near 10:1. Indeed, the majority of the world is adults. One only needs to have $3800 to be in the wealthiest half of the world, but because the distribution is not "centered" on the median (but heavily tilted towards the wealthy), your postulate is incorrect.
Given that no one on the left changes his mind, and no one on the right changes his mind, and people in the middle don't really become either lefties or righties...
What is the point of this thread?
I used to be a dumb teenage conservative, before I read obvious facts over and over until my errors became clear. The same thing can happen for others. I like to believe only a few people are too stupid to think; most will eventually realize that, even in a world where everyone works themselves bloody every day and earns six Ph.D.'s every night, somebody will still "deserve" to be the minimum-wage fry cook.
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