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Old 04-16-2010, 11:55 AM
 
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Excellent!

Way to go Wisconsin!
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Old 04-16-2010, 11:57 AM
 
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Yes, it is not the place of OUR government to make such rules promoting any religious acts, ie prayer.

Go read the first amendment, and the letters and documents left by the Founding Fathers.

Good for Wisconsin!
bad for wisconsin but and yes read the letters and the amendment and the histoic accounts of what the FF did!

by all means!

what you will find is that they were OFTEN promoting religious activity! Even from those they did not agree with!

they even PAID for preachers to come to washington and PRAY for them!
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Old 04-16-2010, 11:58 AM
 
Location: NC USA
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Prayer is religious.
Otherwise, what would you pray for/to? Yourself?

Here's the Merriam-Webster definition of prayer:

Prayer - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
Date: 14th century
1 a (1) : an address (as a petition) to God or a god in word or thought <said a prayer for the success of the voyage> (2) : a set order of words used in praying b : an earnest request or wish
2 : the act or practice of praying to God or a god <kneeling in prayer>
3 : a religious service consisting chiefly of prayers —often used in plural
4 : something prayed for
5 : a slight chance <haven't got a prayer>
Read #4 that you so conveniently seemed to forget to bold - something prayed for - now go run along and look up the definition of pray - it doesn't have to be religious.

Once again, proving the closed mind of a liberal.
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Old 04-16-2010, 11:59 AM
 
Location: 15 months till retirement and I can leave the hell hole of New Yakistan
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Yes, it is not the place of OUR government to make such rules promoting any religious acts, ie prayer.

Go read the first amendment, and the letters and documents left by the Founding Fathers.

Good for Wisconsin!

merriam-webster.com
Main Entry: 1rev·er·end
Pronunciation: \ˈrev-rənd, ˈre-və-; ˈre-vərnd\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Latin reverendus, gerundive of revereri
Date: 15th century

a : of or relating to the clergy b : being a member of the clergy —used as a title <the Reverend Mr. Doe>


the REVEREND Matrin Luther King being Honored with a holiday is UNconstitutional

see the silliness in that statement

facts are that the democrat Congress established the day in 1952 .

not to MANDATE that we pray... but to have a day to recognize something, a day that we can set asside to reflect.



you seem to have no problem with congress MANDATING that we BUY health insurance.........
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Old 04-16-2010, 11:59 AM
 
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Read #4 that you so conveniently seemed to forget to bold - something prayed for - now go run along and look up the definition of pray - it doesn't have to be religious.

Once again, proving the closed mind of a liberal.
It refers back to 1. petition to a God or god.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pray
transitive verb
1 : entreat, implore —often used as a function word in introducing a question, request, or plea <pray be careful>
2 : to get or bring by praying
intransitive verb
1 : to make a request in a humble manner
2 : to address God or a god with adoration, confession, supplication, or thanksgiving

It's the national day of prayer, not the national day of pray.

Is it the national day of reverend? Geez, you're confusing me.
Good thing Wisconsin understood and took the proper steps.
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Old 04-16-2010, 12:02 PM
 
Location: 15 months till retirement and I can leave the hell hole of New Yakistan
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It refers back to 1. petition to a God or god.
yep A god or God

doesnt SPECIFY which god

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof
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Old 04-16-2010, 12:03 PM
 
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for those who are following along at home....

it should be noted that the very first congress paid a preacher to come to washington and pray before the first congress began.


there was never an intent for a "wall of seperation" that blocks religious activity by the government.

the only seperation the framers intended was that Governemnt would not pick one group over another and favor them.

I thought it was freedom from a (forced) government sponsored religion like the King of England had in England?

I agree that nobody should be forced by the government to have, or to have a certain type of, religion. But saying the government can't accommodate people of faith because people without faith are being forced to participate by the government against their will is stretching it a bit.
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Old 04-16-2010, 12:03 PM
 
Location: 15 months till retirement and I can leave the hell hole of New Yakistan
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It refers back to 1. petition to a God or god.

Pray - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
transitive verb
1 : entreat, implore —often used as a function word in introducing a question, request, or plea <pray be careful>
2 : to get or bring by praying
intransitive verb
1 : to make a request in a humble manner
2 : to address God or a god with adoration, confession, supplication, or thanksgiving

It's the national day of prayer, not the national day of pray.

Is it the national day of reverend? Geez, you're confusing me.
Good thing Wisconsin understood and took the proper steps.
prayer---A reverent petition made to God, a god, or another object of worship

you could pray to your lunch box if you wanted
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Old 04-16-2010, 12:06 PM
 
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Someone might be offended!
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:liberal:

actually I am. That ruling tells me, my right to prayer is unconstitutional
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Old 04-16-2010, 12:12 PM
 
Location: NC USA
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It's the national day of prayer, not the national day of pray.
So the two words are unrelated? By saying a "prayer", you are "praying". The words have the same etymology!!! You have got to be kidding!!

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