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Old 06-09-2010, 06:14 PM
 
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You guys are too funny. You are trying to defend his post as fact despite the FACT that his post begins with "Because in my opinion".

Then you further dig your hole with seriously contending this forum is representative of anything other than people with too much time on their hands.

Finally you ask if there are people who hold extreme views as if agreement with such would constitute som sort of proof of the truthfulness of the original unhappy and angry poster.

You guys made my night, rally I haven't laughed this much in a long time thanks!

way to not answer the question!
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Old 06-09-2010, 06:16 PM
 
Location: lake zurich, il
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Nope. Forgive my un-PCness but I won't have it.

Same with many other women. Sorry if that bugs you.



I posted for you FACTS to dispute. Can't do it? Because I'm right.
I know your really trying to bug me but it ain't going to work. Your probably turning blue in the face holding your breath aren't you .

OOH OOH *raises hand* I CAN DISPUTE THE watch me in the next post of mine (I just want to quote so I can go basically line for line )
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Old 06-09-2010, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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way to not answer the question!

Keep it coming I can't wait to see what you guys have next. Thanks for the entertainment. Too funny. Did you go back and see how his post started?! LOL

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Old 06-09-2010, 06:38 PM
 
Location: lake zurich, il
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Because it is in my opinion that "prolifers" (notice the quotes) are the biggest liars, delusional (most being religious), moronic, uneducated, backward, and self centered scum. ESPECIALLY the so called "MEN" who are against abortion in cases of RAPE. They can honestly go to hell in my opinion. All these "prolife" Garbage Old Party "men". You know them.

"Prolifers" are pro life until you are born. After that, f**k you. They claim only liberals have abortions but we all know the religious righties do it when it is good for them. When pro freedom/choicers want to educate children about sex, they whine about thie "Christan" values. When we try to get health care for everyone(which is more pro life than many can hope to be) they WHINE about that too and scream "SOCIALISM".

I am not talking about people who are against abortion in reasonable ways. Like I am against abortion after 3 or 4 months too. But before that, woman comes first. And men? They deserve ZERO say ESPECIALLY in cases of rape.

That is why.
Ok where to start (this is going to be fun ).

Because it is in my opinion that "prolifers" (notice the quotes) are the biggest liars, delusional (most being religious), moronic, uneducated, backward, and self centered scum.

In the first six words you already state yourself that its your opinion and not a fact. Normally people are confident when it comes to facts and don't have to add that little disclaimer. Biggest lairs: well I do tell the occasional white lie (never in debate) but if you say you don't and pro-choicers don't you ma'am are the lier. Delusional: nope sorry I hold two fingers up to my face I still see two, Religious: Was raised christian catholic but am not more agnostic. Lets see so far your 0-3, lets keep going. Moronic: you should be glad you are not referring directly to me because then you would be flagged for personal attacks. Uneducated: Have my high school diploma, currently going to college. Backward: Actually i'm quite forward. Self Centered scum: I don't think I qualify for scum I have bones and structure, as for being self centered I'd say no also, if you knew any of my friends you would know I am a great listener and can always lend great advice when things aren't going well. 0-7

"Prolifers" are pro life until you are born. After that, f**k you. They claim only liberals have abortions but we all know the religious righties do it when it is good for them. When pro freedom/choicers want to educate children about sex, they whine about thie "Christan" values. When we try to get health care for everyone(which is more pro life than many can hope to be) they WHINE about that too and scream "SOCIALISM".

Prolifers are pro life until you are born: sorry don't have a calendar for when certain people are born.

After that **** you: I don't think I have ever said **** you to anyone's face I tend to have respect for people.

They claim only liberals have abortions but we all know the religious righties do it when it is good for them: I don't remember claiming that, and actually I am liberal myself so bad example, as for the religious righties and people who change their morals when it is good for them, shame on those people.

When pro freedom/choicers want to educate children about sex, they whine about thie "Christan" values: Nope sorry, I say educated our children as much as possible about sex because god knows they will be ****ing like jack rabbits real soon.

When we try to get health care for everyone(which is more pro life than many can hope to be) they WHINE about that too and scream "SOCIALISM": don't you hate people like that, sorry I was for the health care reform and people who scream socialism have their head up their asses . Maybe you'll get something next paragraph good luck .

I am not talking about people who are against abortion in reasonable ways. Like I am against abortion after 3 or 4 months too. But before that, woman comes first. And men? They deserve ZERO say ESPECIALLY in cases of rape.

Someone is a bit sexist, I bet you are perfectly fine with taking the guy's money after the baby is born though, if you don't want the guy involved don't let the guy become involved . Oh and just an FYI rape is one of the cases where I bend my views on abortion.

Thanks for playing the stereotype game but you lose please try again .
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Old 06-09-2010, 06:46 PM
 
Location: lake zurich, il
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From the second link (because it seemed like the most direct and I hope you weren't just posting random links all with different answers)

"For example, a woman can get pregnant if there is sperm on her fingers and she puts them into her vagina.
However, the chances of you becoming pregnant in this way are very small because sperm can only live for a very short period of time when outside of the human body (a few minutes if left to dry out, or a few hours if wet).
It would also be possible for pregnancy to happen if the man ejaculates close to the entrance of the vagina, or if his erect penis comes into contact with his partner's body near the vagina."

For example, a woman can get pregnant if there is sperm on her fingers and she puts them into her vagina.

Didn't I say don't post anything that says if she take the sperm on her hand and puts it back in because that would defeat the purpose of ejaculating on a towel? oh well *starts laughing*.

However, the chances of you becoming pregnant in this way are very small because sperm can only live for a very short period of time when outside of the human body (a few minutes if left to dry out, or a few hours if wet).

Which is the point of BC (making the chances of becoming pregnant very small) we already know no BC is 100%.

It would also be possible for pregnancy to happen if the man ejaculates close to the entrance of the vagina, or if his erect penis comes into contact with his partner's body near the vagina.

Thats why you pull out and ejaculate in a towel not her (I detract my statement to ejaculate on her instead of towel earlier).
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Old 06-09-2010, 06:50 PM
 
Location: lake zurich, il
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Actually, there are people who literally go to the ends of the earth to adopt infants and toddlers.



You cannot count on a vasectomy or tubal being reversible. They can try, but it doesn't always work.
You cannot always count on an abortion to be safe and the doctor not to make you sterile.
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Old 06-09-2010, 07:19 PM
 
Location: lake zurich, il
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Because it is in my opinion that "prolifers" (notice the quotes) are the biggest liars, delusional (most being religious), moronic, uneducated, backward, and self centered scum. ESPECIALLY the so called "MEN" who are against abortion in cases of RAPE. They can honestly go to hell in my opinion. All these "prolife" Garbage Old Party "men". You know them.

"Prolifers" are pro life until you are born. After that, f**k you. They claim only liberals have abortions but we all know the religious righties do it when it is good for them. When pro freedom/choicers want to educate children about sex, they whine about thie "Christan" values. When we try to get health care for everyone(which is more pro life than many can hope to be) they WHINE about that too and scream "SOCIALISM".

I am not talking about people who are against abortion in reasonable ways. Like I am against abortion after 3 or 4 months too. But before that, woman comes first. And men? They deserve ZERO say ESPECIALLY in cases of rape.

That is why.
Oh and just a FYI Liberal Voice you are not my Voice not by any means, and when every anyone has anything to say about my above posts especially you Voice about your quote here, please, PLEASE speak up.
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Old 06-09-2010, 07:26 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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why should people tie their tubes if they might want a child, just not at this time? the example of clorox is what women who have no access to safe abortion will do to stop their pregnancies. it isn't because they are stupid **** as you say but because they are desperate to not have a child. some even fall down flights of stairs in hopes of a miscarriage. just more reasons why abortion needs to stay safe and legal
The person was a friend of mine. She was 19, had a full scholarship to USC and was studying to be a lawyer, and had an Uber Conservative family that didnt believe in sex before marriage at all.
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I really don't care whether you have a child or not. As for your question, what do you do with married couples who don't want children? As you said tubes tied. No one will touch you, well your probably too young to be having sex then anyway, but because I can't say that (I don't know how old you are), guys can get their tube tied to you know? Or (and I don't endorse this but just pulling it from your second paragraph and rephrasing a little) why not just take 2 caps of clorox more time in the hospital but who knows might make you sterile and happy (god you people are sick [referring to your second paragraph]). God hopes that the people who drink clorox who try and abort don't wake back up (man or woman), lord knows we have too many dumb*****'s in this country.
1st: I am 23 years old. Im old enough to make my own decisions. I can buy a car, drink, vote, and omigosh, even have sex and all those other things right along with the big kids! Yay! *Sarcasm off*
Im sure you'd rather have women wait until they're oh, say 30 or so, but that isnt going to happen. You obviously know very very little about what women's doctors will or will not do. I was told I cant have that operation without argument until I am at least 35-40 because I might "change my mind".
My other half tried to get his snip snipped, and the Navy doctor wouldnt do it to him either, saying he was too young.

2nd: You speak for God now? Really? Well, while I apparently have His Messenger on the Internet, could you please tell me when my stock is going to rise in value?
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Actually, there are people who literally go to the ends of the earth to adopt infants and toddlers.



You cannot count on a vasectomy or tubal being reversible. They can try, but it doesn't always work.
Then WHY pray tell, are there so damn many babies up for adoption now if there are SOOO many people desperate to have them? Please. Enlighten me how it is kinder to have a child grow up wondering who their blood family is, why they werent wanted. Or have other children in school find out they're adopted and tease them about not having a "real mommy and daddy".
Too many of those babies grow up to be toddlers, where their chances of being adopted get slimmer the older they become. Soon as they hit 10 its almost a guarantee they're going to grow up in the system.
Would you like me to elaborate what often happens to children in foster homes? In orphanages? Sexual abuse, physical and emotional abuse, and if that doest get them then they spend their lives wondering why they werent wanted, why they dont have a "real" Mom and Dad, and that in itself can screw anyone over mentally. Hell, kids that get adopted wonder that too.
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Old 06-09-2010, 07:29 PM
 
Location: lake zurich, il
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why should people tie their tubes if they might want a child, just not at this time? the example of clorox is what women who have no access to safe abortion will do to stop their pregnancies. it isn't because they are stupid **** as you say but because they are desperate to not have a child. some even fall down flights of stairs in hopes of a miscarriage. just more reasons why abortion needs to stay safe and legal
If I was that desperate to not have a baby (as if it were some sort of demon that would eat me from inside out [oh I can't wait to hear the response for that]) and I knew that the only way out of it is poison, I would either go lesbian or completely abstain or at the VERY LEAST get my tubes tied.

If you don't want children now but maybe in the future have the guy get his tubes tied (OMG DID I JUST SAY THAT I'M SUPPOSED TO BE ANTI-WOMAN ), use birth control, condoms (female and male), only have sex when you are not ovulating (I think that is how that works) and pull out before the guy climaxes. If you still get pregnant then, if the morning after pill is truly morning after and before fertilization i'm all for it. And while I know not all birth control is effective by itself, if you make every precaution in the book you WILL not get pregnant. How do I know? It would be in the freaking news.
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Old 06-09-2010, 07:42 PM
 
Location: lake zurich, il
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1st: I am 23 years old. Im old enough to make my own decisions. I can buy a car, drink, vote, and omigosh, even have sex and all those other things right along with the big kids! Yay! *Sarcasm off*
Im sure you'd rather have women wait until they're oh, say 30 or so, but that isnt going to happen. You obviously know very very little about what women's doctors will or will not do. I was told I cant have that operation without argument until I am at least 35-40 because I might "change my mind".
My other half tried to get his snip snipped, and the Navy doctor wouldnt do it to him either, saying he was too young.

2nd: You speak for God now? Really? Well, while I apparently have His Messenger on the Internet, could you please tell me when my stock is going to rise in value?
Sarcasm really isn't needed, especially if you are trying to portray me as the immature one.

Actually I don't care what age women are, as long as they are prepared. Now I know you are so narrow minded you think that means they have to have thousands of dollars of their own money but thats not what that means. It means be prepared. One of my best friends is 18, she had her first planned child at 17, she is engaged and has her second baby on the way and she is going to high school still. She does not come from a rich family and her fiancée works at a car wash. They both live on there own in their own apartment and do not collect welfare. Now i'm sure your asking yourself "how the???" Well they did this thing called planning and if young people are like the way you described me then I would hope adults could plan that way too. They both work, go to school, save money still, live good lives, and get help from their family.

Also you guys must not have tried very hard to find doctors to do the operations because if there are people out there who will do implants in young women, i'm sure you'll find or convince someone to snip you or him. Don't be such a wet tissue when you go into the doctor, remember your mantra "IT'S MY BODY AND I'LL DO WITH IT WHAT I WANT."

As for your 2nd part, have you heard of something commonly used on the internet, and in really life for that matter, called figure of speech?
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