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Old 01-27-2013, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Northern CA
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I agree with you. In other articles I've read about it the Mother said that her son admitted to "humping on her" ... not sure what all that entails.

There really hasn't been a lot of details as to the type/degree of molestation/contact that took place. A little boy, just 15 years old, is dead as a result. The Father of the boy isn't the Father of the 3 yr old girl.

The Father (Jamar Sr.) was a US Postal worker with no criminal record. One can only imagine what must have ran through his mind at the time.

I have a 14 year old son, and could not ever imagine killing my child. This is such a horribly sad, and disturbing story.
Yes it is. It seems this man sacrificed himself and his son, for the good of this family and society.
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Old 01-27-2013, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Missouri, USA
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Yes it is. It seems this man sacrificed himself and his son, for the good of this family and society.
He also cut short the life of someone who might have changed.
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Old 01-27-2013, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Northern CA
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The 15 year old wasn't armed. That's not an immediate threat by any definition of the law, so your point is moot. The man wasn't defending himself, he committed premeditated (under the law) murder, plain and simple, against an unarmed minor (or person, if you'd rather me use that term to not differentiate age) in the eyes of the law. In that case, the punishment fits the crime.
The father was/is not a threat to society, that kid was.
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Old 01-27-2013, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Northern CA
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I find disproportionate both the killing if his foster son and the sentence.
? as I read it, the boy was his, the little girl was not.
This father just lost it, and let his emotions take over. There is a legal defense for that, can't recall the name of it. Husbands used to use it, if they found their wives in bed with another, and they acted out on impulse. Liken it to temporary insanity.

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Old 01-27-2013, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Northern CA
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He also cut short the life of someone who might have changed.
oh well.
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Old 01-27-2013, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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What's the whining for? It sounds like two crooks got what they deserved. Also, that family doesn't have limp along broken anymore. Sounds like a win to me.
The family doesn't limp around broken? The mother just lost her son and husband. her daughter was molested and all is well now?
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Old 01-27-2013, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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Yes it is. It seems this man sacrificed himself and his son, for the good of this family and society.
Please, the man did not sacrifice himself, he lost control of himself. Dispite what the 15 year old did, he didn't deserve to die like that and now the husband will never get to be with his wife and stepdaughter again. And now his wife will probably go on welfare and her and the daughter will be seeign psychiatrists for the rest of their lives. The father could have done more good if he had turned the son in and been there for his wife and stepdaughter.
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Old 01-27-2013, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Northern CA
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Please, the man did not sacrifice himself, he lost control of himself. Dispite what the 15 year old did, he didn't deserve to die like that and now the husband will never get to be with his wife and stepdaughter again. And now his wife will probably go on welfare and her and the daughter will be seeign psychiatrists for the rest of their lives. The father could have done more good if he had turned the son in and been there for his wife and stepdaughter.
If you want to be consistent, what should happen to this guy? He kills innocent children that have done nothing.
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Old 01-27-2013, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Here
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The empathy displayed towards the criminal perpetrator is disappointing and most unfortunately all too typical. What of the 3 year old victim who has literally been screwed up for life all because some incorrigibly disturbed animal was unable to control itself? What about her? She’s the victim here, not the piece of filth that was rightfully removed.
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Old 01-27-2013, 10:13 PM
 
Location: Missouri, USA
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The empathy displayed towards the criminal perpetrator is disappointing and most unfortunately all too typical. What of the 3 year old victim who has literally been screwed up for life all because some incorrigibly disturbed animal was unable to control itself? What about her? She’s the victim here, not the piece of filth that was rightfully removed.
He's 15 and he confessed (unless he was caught in the act and played the I'm sorry card). I like everything the dad did except shooting him. The pistol whipping sounds good. The stripping, sounds good (negative feedback) depending on just what the son did, perhaps shooting off a finger or two might have been appropriate (more negative feedback).

Maybe he was just curious or something....This option necessitates that the dad had been crazy at the time, but it could have happened.

Maybe the dad felt he was protecting his family too and was made insane with anger. Maybe he felt he was protecting society. I don't know. I just really don't think a fifteen year old who confesses to a crime should be shot on site for that crime unless it was something worse than this seems to be. If he'd been caught in the act, or had been older, that could be different.

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