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marriage is a religious institution. many people are not religious and ,or don't want to get married. many women want children and have not found the right partner, many people who may want to marry, can't legally. all of these people deserve to have children if they want without question or being looked upon as something less than what some in our society think they should be. get over it people. a child needs someone to love and care for them, they could care less if the parent is married only that they are loved
40% of moms are out of wedlock. they are not concerned about the dad supporting them, that is mom and dad's job these days. part of the permakid syndrome.
Huge brushstroke generalizations in here. Might as well have said murder is bad, people need to stop killing each other.
Firstly, we are animals. Animals propagate for survival of their species. At one time the weak perished and the strong survived. Not so much the case now, in regards to humans. We have changed (I wanted to use evolve in place of change due to the obvious religious tone in this thread, but I digress). Personally I will not allow the OP to determine who and who will not have children based on the OP's personal beliefs (whether there is merit there or not). In this day and age we exist in a much broader realm regarding social and moral conditions... i.e. we no longer fit in the mold of the dad working, stay at home mom, nice two story house with the white picket fence with the 2.2 kids. We used to have square puzzle pieces for a square puzzle. Today we have a puzzle with multiple facets and angles, and pieces that actually change in shape as we go along. Bottom line is... one size no longer fits all. And try as you might, you (OP) are not going to get a square piece to fit in a roundish hole. Welcome to today. It ain't yesterday.
Being married at the time of conception is hardly a guarantee that a child will grow up to be a productive member of society.
No one is saying it is. You still can't escape the data associated with out of wedlock births and the social consequences, no matter how you want to spin it or hopw non-judgmental you need to be.
marriage is a religious institution. many people are not religious and ,or don't want to get married. many women want children and have not found the right partner, many people who may want to marry, can't legally. all of these people deserve to have children if they want without question or being looked upon as something less than what some in our society think they should be. get over it people. a child needs someone to love and care for them, they could care less if the parent is married only that they are loved
Yet in spite of your platitudes the wealth of data with regards to the future well-being of out of wedlock children is inescapable.
Like it or not, numbers don't care, have opinions or have feelings.
Yet in spite of your platitudes the wealth of data with regards to the future well-being of out of wedlock children is inescapable.
Like it or not, numbers don't care, have opinions or have feelings.
sure it is great if we all had the leave it to beaver life, mom dad, a loving sibling and a dog. talk about rose colored glasses life isn't like that. sure it would be great too if everyone had a good paying job, there was no cancer or war, and children didn't starve. no one can argue with that but it still does not exclude my examples. what do you suggest happen to the people who want children that are not a part of the "traditional" lifestyle you promote?
sure it is great if we all had the leave it to beaver life, mom dad, a loving sibling and a dog. talk about rose colored glasses life isn't like that. sure it would be great too if everyone had a good paying job, there was no cancer or war, and children didn't starve. no one can argue with that but it still does not exclude my examples. what do you suggest happen to the people who want children that are not a part of the "traditional" lifestyle you promote?
Very selfish of them. They want a child like some chic possession, but then they turn around and want society to provide the financial support for their children and don't care that a child needs two parents, a family.
Simple. Have as many children as you wish as long as you take full responsibilty for them.
That's what real adults have to do.
If you're in it only for the orgasm, don't throw procreation into the act. Nobody benefits. Especially a child.
Responsibility? The reason most single women choose to have children is just so they can be given food stamps, government benefits. If there were no overly generous government handouts, and the women actually had to get off their rear ends and earn a living to support their children themselves, they wouldn't go that route.
Responsibility? The reason most single women choose to have children is just so they can be given food stamps, government benefits. If there were no overly generous government handouts, and the women actually had to get off their rear ends and earn a living to support their children themselves, they wouldn't go that route.
They want the fun without the consequences.
I have to say that I was a single mom years ago and knew other single moms and I was NEVER on any government handout nor were any of the other single mothers that I knew!
The idea that, and this is your quote, "most single women choose to have children is just so they can be given food stamps," is not true! I'm not sure where you are pulling that statement from but what a falacy!
Many women, on the other hand, do make the mistake of thinking that if they get pregnant, an immature relationship will thrive once the baby is born. Many women also make the mistake of not using any contraception. But I have yet to meet a single mother who said to me that she became a single mother to get food stamps!
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life isn't like that. sure it would be great too if everyone had a good paying job, there was no cancer or war, and children didn't starve. no one can argue with that but it still does not exclude my examples. what do you suggest happen to the people who want children that are not a part of the "traditional" lifestyle you promote?
