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Old 04-20-2010, 09:11 AM
 
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The government hasn't changed much, the people have. Sudden outrage and hatred for a system that has been the this way for a long time shows that this is not simply about the sysem but more about hatred. We have never been perfect. We have had blood on our hands since this country was founded. When Obama took office, the government did not all of a sudden become corrupt and evil. We've been lied to, scammed and oppressed in the past but all of a sudden people are angry?

The debt, the economic crisis, wars, none of it is new but people are angry about it, now? There were some people who were angry about it years ago. I can respect that because I know that those people are genuinely concerned about the state of the country but I have no respect for a bunch of whiney, sore-loser, ignorant, tea-bagging hateful birthers who have been oblivious to politics, praised George Bush and are all of a sudden angry. However you try to spin it, this is the voice that has taken over the right. They are tacky, ignorant and an embarassment to this country.

That os a mouthful for someone who has to hide hussein obama behind a Bush
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Old 04-20-2010, 09:20 AM
 
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You really should have come up with a different analogy. hussein obama thinks a baby should be left to die it it has survived a brutal abortion. That is no a man that would take a hit from a fly swatter, let alone a bullet.
6000 posts, and this is your best shot? quit being a part of the problem, and wake up...this is trash.
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Old 04-20-2010, 09:27 AM
 
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6000 posts, and this is your best shot? quit being a part of the problem, and wake up...this is trash.
That wasnt trash , friend... that was fact. I know the truth is not pretty if it does not shed positive light on the "CHosen One" which happens to be one of the most classless, and immature presidents I have ever seen light.

We can look past politics and look what is good for the country and Obama has not been good.

The man cannot even take critisim, his croonies call everyone a racist that does not agree with thir policies. As a leader he should not show signs of weakness. We learn that in the military... its called "Military Bearing"

Bush always rolled witht he punches, when protests were happening and they were calling him Hitler, hanging him in effigy he wouls simply state... "aint America great, freedom of expression is great."

Because someone does not agree with you, or like your guy they are somewhow ignorant.... not very mature of you.... or intelligent...
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Old 04-20-2010, 09:35 AM
 
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America is angry. Crazed militias. Grassroots revolt. A capital at war. The country is tearing itself apart.

America is angry - World - Macleans.ca

....The result, with Republican politicians cowed into moving ever farther to the right by pundits like Fox News host Glenn Beck, talk radio’s Rush Limbaugh, and activists from so-called “Patriot” groups and the burgeoning Tea Party movement, has been toxic rhetoric and rabid polarization in Washington, divisions arguably even more marked than under George W. Bush. “In terms of partisan conflict, we’ve never really seen anything like this and it’s really shocking for a country that by and large has hung its hat on moderation—compromise between conservatives and liberals,”
I bolded part.....
If division was bad under Bush, and he was to blame, then this even worse division under Obama means he is to blame. Wasn't Obama supposed to be the great uniter? Where is the unity BambiBoy?
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Old 04-20-2010, 10:03 AM
 
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I bolded part.....
If division was bad under Bush, and he was to blame, then this even worse division under Obama means he is to blame. Wasn't Obama supposed to be the great uniter? Where is the unity BambiBoy?
I think the guy tried. Too hard, in my opinion. However, folks I see are mad at him no matter what he does because it isn't what they'd do.

"Elections have consequences". That means the guy you didn't vote for isn't always going to do the things you want him to do. You're welcome to protest those moves, but you can't blame him for the fact that people disagree with the actions of a Democratic President and Congress.
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Old 04-20-2010, 10:05 AM
 
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America is angry. Crazed militias. Grassroots revolt. A capital at war. The country is tearing itself apart.

America is angry - World - Macleans.ca

....The result, with Republican politicians cowed into moving ever farther to the right by pundits like Fox News host Glenn Beck, talk radio’s Rush Limbaugh, and activists from so-called “Patriot” groups and the burgeoning Tea Party movement, has been toxic rhetoric and rabid polarization in Washington, divisions arguably even more marked than under George W. Bush. “In terms of partisan conflict, we’ve never really seen anything like this and it’s really shocking for a country that by and large has hung its hat on moderation—compromise between conservatives and liberals,”

Not a view from the "great white north"

the above is the view of some liberal in canada.

there is a difference.
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Old 04-20-2010, 10:11 AM
 
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Does 'white' refer to the snow up there?
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Old 04-20-2010, 10:11 AM
 
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6000 posts, and this is your best shot? quit being a part of the problem, and wake up...this is trash.
it may be trash.... it may be an escalation of rhetoric... but it is also based in fact and has been proven.


Mr. Obama believes that if a woman chooses an abortion regardless of the gestation period (up to and including the 9th month) then once that abortion has been performed, the baby is dead. Even if it is alive. and if it is alive, it should not be treated so that it will be dead.

This is what Mr. Obama as a state senator insured when he killed a bill that would require doctors to work to save a baby that was born alive as a result of a botched abortion.

Mr. Obama said something to the effect of "A woman's right to an abortion is sacrosanct"

Living humans lives are not sacrosanct to Mr. Obama but the right to an abortion is.

that is fact. It actually happened in the real world. It may be inflammatory but if it is, it is because it really did happen.

I suspect those who oppose abortion think it is “trash” (your word) but for very different reasons that you think it is trash.
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Old 04-20-2010, 10:13 AM
 
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That wasnt trash , friend... that was fact. I know the truth is not pretty if it does not shed positive light on the "CHosen One" which happens to be one of the most classless, and immature presidents I have ever seen light.

We can look past politics and look what is good for the country and Obama has not been good.

The man cannot even take critisim, his croonies call everyone a racist that does not agree with thir policies. As a leader he should not show signs of weakness. We learn that in the military... its called "Military Bearing"

Bush always rolled witht he punches, when protests were happening and they were calling him Hitler, hanging him in effigy he wouls simply state... "aint America great, freedom of expression is great."

Because someone does not agree with you, or like your guy they are somewhow ignorant.... not very mature of you.... or intelligent...
Not true at all and there was nothing factual in your post. He has taken criticism and there is nothing wrong with criticism. There is something wrong with unwarranted hatred and blaming someone for something they had no control over. There is something wrong with not acknowledging when the issue started and blaming something on someone unfairly that they had nothing to do with. That shows your true colors and the fact that you are still giving Bush kudos.

In case you haven't noticed, the left has their criticism of the president as well. The difference is that they do not involve conspiracy theories, ignoring the fact that the economic crisis started on Bush's watch, accusing the government of breaking a federal law by putting an illegal immigrant in the whitehouse, screaming about taxes (when they have actually been lowered for most Americans) and saying that they're taking the country back. From whom and why now? If you feel that the country isn't yours, it wasn't your to begin with.

When people have no credibility, did not pay attention for the last 8-20 years of politics and are all of a sudden outraged when not much has changed, there can't be too many valid reasons for their anger. When people don't know anything about what they're protesting against, when people don't think for themselves and let Hannity, Beck, Savage, Palin, Bachman or some television/radio personality think for them and get up in arms based on a speculation or an opinion that just makes them feel better about their misplaced and unwarrented hatred, what reason is there? When people use racial slurs like sp**or n***** and the people defending them are teabaggers and Obama haters, it shows what is motivating them. It's not concern for the country, it's hatred, fear and yes racism. Disagree if you want to but unless you have a valid concern, unless you know what the heck you're talking about and can have an intelligent debate, unless you denounce the biggotry, you will be seen as a racist biggot.

Oh and as for the abortion obsessors, why are you not angry at every president since Roe V. Wade? How many Republicans have been in office? How many times has it been overturned? ZERO...Every supreme court justice and president since Obama is just as pro-life as he is. Get over it.
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Old 04-20-2010, 10:20 AM
 
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it may be trash.... it may be an escalation of rhetoric... but it is also based in fact and has been proven.


Mr. Obama believes that if a woman chooses an abortion regardless of the gestation period (up to and including the 9th month) then once that abortion has been performed, the baby is dead. Even if it is alive. and if it is alive, it should not be treated so that it will be dead.

This is what Mr. Obama as a state senator insured when he killed a bill that would require doctors to work to save a baby that was born alive as a result of a botched abortion.

Mr. Obama said something to the effect of "A woman's right to an abortion is sacrosanct"

Living humans lives are not sacrosanct to Mr. Obama but the right to an abortion is.

that is fact. It actually happened in the real world. It may be inflammatory but if it is, it is because it really did happen.

I suspect those who oppose abortion think it is “trash” (your word) but for very different reasons that you think it is trash.
I guess you are talking about infanticide, not abortion
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