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Old 05-03-2010, 10:45 AM
 
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It sounds to me that your husband takes care of the house,is this correct? If so what is so negative about that to you? You said you were a type A(in so many words)female so you should be happy. If you need a man who makes more money many than you and can dominate you be prepared for what that brings.
From my experience, a lot of women (and men) are stuck in the stereotype that men must work but its okay for women to stay home. They may call themselves "liberated" but they still have the baggage of decades of history.
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Old 05-03-2010, 10:46 AM
 
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Either way, it's the woman who runs the risk, and the woman who has the final choice about getting an abortion. The man could request that she gets one, but he cannot FORCE her to. She could choose to go ahead and deliver the child, regardless of his wishes.
I agree with you. But then you have the argument as to why the man should pay if he gets no part of the decision making?
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Old 05-03-2010, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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A lot of men have indeed made that argument. However, if they were married to her at the time of conception and raised them for say, five years or so, before choosing to divorce, then should they not continue to pay regardless of whether or not the child is theirs?
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Old 05-03-2010, 12:01 PM
 
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A lot of men have indeed made that argument. However, if they were married to her at the time of conception and raised them for say, five years or so, before choosing to divorce, then should they not continue to pay regardless of whether or not the child is theirs?
That, then, is a different situation as the man has made a choice first in marriage and second to raise the child. So, I would say that both have a liability to the child.

I had a situation where my (former) gf came off birth control but chose not to tell me. I was fortunate in that she told one of her friends who, horrified, told me. But, suppose I had not known and conception had ensued. Should I be liable for that child?

Interestingly, I never got an apology or an admission that what she had done in not telling me might have been wrong.
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Old 05-03-2010, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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A lot of men have indeed made that argument. However, if they were married to her at the time of conception and raised them for say, five years or so, before choosing to divorce, then should they not continue to pay regardless of whether or not the child is theirs?
Completely different situation.

Women get 3 months to decide if they want to birth, raise, and pay for a child. Men should get the same 3 months.

A father opting out of the responsibility at age 5, would like a woman wanting an abortion when the kid is 5.
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Old 05-03-2010, 12:25 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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If anything, single moms are portrayed as heroes these days.. And I have much more respect for single mothers than women who abort because it's inconvenient to them. I think women should make better decisions in men.
A single Mother of 4 kids in a WIC line is a "hero". Maybe to the masses following Octomom, not to the rest of Society.
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Old 05-03-2010, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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Completely different situation.

Women get 3 months to decide if they want to birth, raise, and pay for a child. Men should get the same 3 months.

A father opting out of the responsibility at age 5, would like a woman wanting an abortion when the kid is 5.
Well, there are some similarities. A non-custodial parent generally has no decision making power over the child, child support or not.

And the reason I bring it up is because some feel that if it is not indeed their child--even though they thought it was the first five years--they should not be obligated to pay child support for it, and the real father should instead have to pay.

That's where you have these men who get divorced and all of a sudden want a paternity test done on the child. Personally, I feel that's a low class thing to do.
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Old 05-03-2010, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Well, there are some similarities. A non-custodial parent generally has no decision making power over the child, child support or not.

And the reason I bring it up is because some feel that if it is not indeed their child--even though they thought it was the first five years--they should not be obligated to pay child support for it, and the real father should instead have to pay.

That's where you have these men who get divorced and all of a sudden want a paternity test done on the child. Personally, I feel that's a low class thing to do.
Thats what DNA tests are for.
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Old 05-03-2010, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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Yeah, but if it was okay to pay for it for the first five years of its life, you shouldn't all of a sudden want a DNA test done. That's my point. If you accepted it as your child during all that time, and now you want to get out from under that obligation...
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Old 05-03-2010, 10:24 PM
 
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People who collect unemployment actually worked and paid into unemployment.

More than likely people living off welfare never worked and live off the backs of those who do.

Do you understand the difference?

Yes, i understand the difference?? Did you read the post I was speaking about. If I'm not mistaken, he said lazy collecting unemployment!!
And the same applies "black man are not the only one's on welfare". So, find some other race to talk about to try to make yourself feel better than u are.

Do you understand that!!!
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