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I guess we should get the message out to Europe to start rioting in the streets. They will be upset when the find out that their system that they have used for decades while being at the top isn't working.
It isn't working! HELLO! Look at Greece. And Spain is not doing so well either. People from Europe move here to get a better life. Socalizing us to make the U.S. like them will only bring us down like them. Why do you think so many people risked their lives to get away and colonize here? To get away from their way of life!!!! It was oppressive! And BTW, there are riots in Greece, because the retirement age just went from 53, to 67. Because the government is failing miserably.
doesnt really matter, the USA has been in a socialist like state since FDR was dictaitor of the USA and had his non-traditional 4 terms in office.
Socialism is the state ownership of the "means of production".
At no time during the Roosevelt administration was a single sector of American industry nationalized by the U.S. Government.
When you talk about socialization look at the German Constitution:
“Reason and soil, natural resources and means of production can be transferred of the socialization for the purpose by a law, which and extent of the remuneration regulates kind, in common property or into other forms of the social economy." – Article 15 of Grundgesetz [1].
Nationalization refers to the transferring private assets into public ownership. In German this term is known as ‘Verstaatlichung – to put under state control [2].’ Most Germans understand that these state-owned companies were once private but taken control over. This concept to Germans is a part of their constitution known as Grundgesetz which can be translated to ‘Basic Law’.
From what I see, you all are given every chance to voice some other actual reason for despising the President.
Meanwhile, the Republcian Party and the right-wing generally have depended for decades on there being some bogeyman they could use to frighten people. Vote for us, and we'll protect you from Communists. Those liberals are soft on Communism. The collapse of the Soviet Union was actually a terrible blow to Republicans, as it took away their strawman of more than forty years.
I don't have any reason to despise the president.
Democrats use the bogeyman to frighten people. Vote for us and we'll protect you from the capitalist. Vote for us or the republicans will take away your social security, medical care, education. The air and water are going to kill you if you don't vote for us. You name it and the democrats are scared to death of it. They need someone in D.C. to protect them from everything and everyone.
Pretty pathetic way to go thru life. Scared all the time.
Kinda like Democrats brand anyone that disagrees with them as racist?
When it comes to calling names, the right wing has a much older tradition of it. Racism only really became taboo in public discourse starting around 70s and slowly gaining acceptance from there.
Branding people anti-American, Commie, Marxist etc... started long before people ever started saying racism. Calling people the above names also has a major racial component to it, because these terms were used against Civil Rights proponents.
The right wing like to accuse everyone of throwing the race card and love to ignore how they pioneered the name calling by calling everyone who wanted civil liberties, equality, secular government and justice as Anti American, Commie, Marxist, Atheist.
When it comes to calling names, the right wing has a much older tradition of it. Racism only really became taboo in public discourse starting around 70s and slowly gaining acceptance from there.
Branding people anti-American, Commie, Marxist etc... started long before people ever started saying racism. Calling people the above names also has a major racial component to it, because these terms were used against Civil Rights proponents.
The right wing like to accuse everyone of throwing the race card and love to ignore how they pioneered the name calling by calling everyone who wanted civil liberties, equality, secular government and justice as Anti American, Commie, Marxist, Atheist.
Yeah, the republicans in the United States invented name-calling. No one ever engaged in name-calling before. LOLs.
It isn't working! HELLO! Look at Greece. And Spain is not doing so well either. People from Europe move here to get a better life. Socalizing us to make the U.S. like them will only bring us down like them. Why do you think so many people risked their lives to get away and colonize here? To get away from their way of life!!!! It was oppressive! And BTW, there are riots in Greece, because the retirement age just went from 53, to 67. Because the government is failing miserably.
So you are throwing out the tens of other very successful Socialist countries? In that case, Democracy is a failure.
Modern Socialism is the kind of Democratic parliamentary democracy in western Europe- where there is private ownership of corporations etc- but with heavier regulation then the USA- and more social safety nets then the USA.
Communism tends to be a government that owns all property- is a totalitarian government like in the former Soviet Union, Cuba, The old Warsaw Pact countries of Eastern Europe- and China till about 1990.
China today would best be called a type of 21st century fascism.
Fascism- The classic example is Nazi Germany- Fascism allows private ownership, rewards corporations and the wealthy ruling capitalists- but has a type of extreme 'nationalism' that sometimes uses propaganda, fear, strict control, authoritarianism,unilateral foreign policy, anti liberal, anti communist, anti immigration, scapegoating, illegal elections etc.
I think that those words are used as a generic term to encompass "Totalitarian"..........
While one can pick nits, and use semantics to attempt to make themselves appear to have superior intellect, they do in fact understand the spirit in which said statement was made.
Of course not agreeing with said statement, the need for deflection, and demonization arises. Thus threads like this one come along.
Socialism, Communism, and Fascism are all examples of a totalitarian mindset. Just different flavors, as it were........but all end up oppressing some, at the expense of others.
There have been government run socialistic policies in the US since at least 1935, and maybe earlier if one cares to dig back further. Perhaps the reason why some groups seem to do better than others?
YC.......
I have also seen people use the terms a bit broadly, and to those who jump at the chance to quote some definition of socialism or communism, there are varying degrees of these terms once they are put into practice. Even within the Democratic and Republican Party there are politicians who disagree about political issues, and yet they are still democrats and republicans.
0bama can still be a scoialist or Marxist at heart, and yet some of his actions and policies may not fit the standard definitions. Isn't it possible for a politician to use the tools available to him, such as greedy bankers or financial investors, if the end result he has in mind is Marxist, or neo-Marxist?
i have yet to see any of these anti-socialists give up their social security. where is that movement?
any vounteers yet?
If the government actually protected those payments, then paying into social security would be no different then buying US Savings Bonds.
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i have yet to see any of these anti-socialists give up their social security. where is that movement?
i have yet to see any of these anti-socialists give up their social security. where is that movement?
