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Heck, I do not blame you. You'll be joining the ever increasing Americans every year flooding across the border to Mexico for their health care. Not to mention the tens of thousands of Americans retiring there there.
It is quality care and much more affordable.
We went down there for a gall bladder removal.
MEXICO CITY — It sounds almost too good to be true: a health care plan with no limits, no deductibles, free medicines, tests, X-rays, eyeglasses, even dental work — all for a flat fee of $250 or less a year.
To get it, you just have to move to Mexico.
It's unclear how many Americans use IMSS, but with between 40,000 and 80,000 U.S. retirees living in Mexico, the number probably runs "well into the thousands,"
Now, now, don't confuse them with facts! Those are scary things for them!!
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Wow...but aren't you scared for the gangs? I personally would be scared to travel there after hearing all these things on the news...or shouldn't we trust the media?
Oh fer cryin' out loud. I lived in Mexico for a year and a half, in the middle of an entirely Mexican neighborhood and never once felt fearful for my life. Most people could speak at least a little English and every restaurant's menus were available in English.
And Mexico's Constitution calls for health care for everyone, using a "hybrid" system that is paid partially by the government, partially by businesses and partially by employee contributions.
Public health care delivery is accomplished via an elaborate provisioning and delivery system instituted by the Mexican Federal Government. Public health care is provided to all Mexican citizens as guaranteed via Article 4 of the Constitution. Public care is either fully or partially subsidized by the federal government, depending on the person's (Spanish: derechohabiente's) employment status. All Mexican citizens are eligible for subsidized health care regardless of their work status via a system of health care facilities operating under the federal Secretariat of Health (formerly the Secretaria de Salubridad y Asistencia, or SSA) agency.
Employed citizens and their dependents, however, are further eligible to use the health care program administered and operated by the Instituto Mexicano del Seguro Social (IMSS) (English: Mexican Social Security Institute). The IMSS health care program is a tripartite system funded equally by the employee, its private employer, and the federal government.
The IMSS does not provide service to employees of the public sector. Employees in the public sector are serviced by the Instituto de Seguridad y Servicios Sociales de los Trabajadores del Estado (ISSSTE) (English: Institute for Social Security and Services for State Workers), which attends to the health and social care needs of government employees. This includes local, state, and federal government employees.
The government of the states in Mexico also provide health services independently of those services provided by the federal government programs. In most states, the state government has established free or subsidized healthcare to all their citizens.
I'm planning to move my family and extended family into Mexico for my health, and I would like to ask you to assist me.
We're planning to simply walk across the border from the US. into Mexico , and we'll need your help to make a few arrangements.
We plan to skip all the legal stuff like visas, passports, immigration quotas and laws.
I'm sure they handle those things the same way you do here. So, would you mind telling your buddy, President Calderon, that I'm on my way over?
Please let him know that I will be expecting the following:
1. Free medical care for my entire family.
2. English-speaking government bureaucrats for all services I might need, whether I use them or not.
3. Please print all Mexican Government forms in English.
4. I want my grandkids to be taught Spanish by English-speaking (bi-lingual) teachers.
5. Tell their schools they need to include classes on American culture and history.
6. I want my grandkids to see the American flag on one of the flag poles at their school.
7. Please plan to feed my grandkids at school for both breakfast and lunch.
8. I will need a local Mexican driver's license so I can get easy access to government services.
9. I do plan to get a car and drive in Mexico , but I don't plan to purchase car insurance, and I probably won't make any special effort to learn local traffic laws.
10. In case one of the Mexican police officers does not get the memo from their president to leave me alone, please be sure that every patrol car has at least one English-speaking officer.
11. I plan to fly the US. flag from my housetop, put U S. flag decals on my car, and have a gigantic celebration on July 4th. I do not want any complaints or negative comments from the locals.
12. I would also like to have a nice job without paying any taxes, or have any labor or tax laws enforced on any business I may start.
13. Please have the president tell all the Mexican people to be extremely nice and never say critical things about me or my family, or about the strain we might place on their economy.
14. I want to receive free food stamps.
15. Naturally, I'll expect free rent subsidies.
16. I'll need income tax credits so that although I don't pay Mexican taxes, I'll receive money from the government.
17. Please arrange it so that the Mexican Government pays $4,500.00 to help me buy a new car.
18. Oh yes, I almost forgot, please enroll me free into the Mexican Social Security program so that I'll get a monthly income in retirement.
I know this is an easy request because you already do all these things for all his people who walk over to the US. from Mexico I am sure that President Calderon won't mind returning the favor if you ask him nicely.
Thank you so much for your kind help.
You're the man!!!
P.S. I hear that otherwise, they are not as kind as you with illegals who enter Mexico and throw them in jail for two years the first time and then for 10-years if they dare re-enter. For starters. So your letter would really be appreciated.
Now, now, don't confuse them with facts! Those are scary things for them!! Oh fer cryin' out loud. I lived in Mexico for a year and a half, in the middle of an entirely Mexican neighborhood and never once felt fearful for my life. Most people could speak at least a little English and every restaurant's menus were available in English.
And Mexico's Constitution calls for health care for everyone, using a "hybrid" system that is paid partially by the government, partially by businesses and partially by employee contributions.
I love when people who have probably never set foot in Mexico (or only Gringolandia- Cancun, Acapulco, Puerto Vallarta, Cabo, etc) gnash their teeth over the dangers of Mexico. Unless they're doing something stupid (drug trade, flaunting their wealth- which you shouldn't even do in many US cities, getting trashed), the vast majority of Mexico's interior is safe. Mexicans get the same doom and gloom report of the US with reports of violence from places like Detroit and St. Louis and I met many people there who were frightened of visiting any of the US.
I worked with a nonprofit in Mexico City giving STD screening and treatment to sex workers in a sketchy neighborhood and felt safer there then I do in downtown Atlanta. I was a 20 year old gringa with a keen sense of danger. In fact, the one time I was assaulted was in a TOURIST area.
Oh, and to the OP, you can tell who the American retirees are by their American flags. I spent most of my time living in Oaxaca and traveling in Chiapas and there was no lack of government officials who spoke English (though I speak Spanish so I had no need). Many retirees live all over Mexico and DEMAND English services. Most of the private schools (where all but the poor go), even in backwater areas I visited, started their English curriculum young as well.
This has been posted time and time again. I first saw it back in 2005. Don't think of it as original in anyway.
IMSS isn't nearly as good as it looks on paper.
The US reaps what it sows, in many ways. For the last 40 years, successive American governments have more or less dictated Mexican economic policy, including the eventually disastrous dismantling of ISI and the austerity programs of the 1980s and 1990s. NAFTA has also driven up the cost of basic food stuffs like corn, because Mexico now has to import it from the US (Mexico can't legally block it, and it's cheaper which in turn is because US farmers get massive subsidies that the peon farming a hillside plot in Chiapas does not). NAFTA was a huge bust for Mexico. So you have people who can't make a living and instead go north.
In regards to violence, there are some places in Mexico that I wouldn't go wandering around in right now, but the vast majority of the country is safe.
Thank you for a very accurate assestment on the scope of what really does happen once they come across our borders illegally, maybe those that do not understand the magnitude of this pesky problem, they will now. Maybe we should start sending letters to Mexico, telling them to expect a whole bunch of Americano's coming across their borders illegally, and the things that we expect. Fat chance what the illegals, get in this Country, would American's get in Mexico, they would probably be shot at.
I'm planning to move my family and extended family into Mexico for my health, and I would like to ask you to assist me.
We're planning to simply walk across the border from the US. into Mexico , and we'll need your help to make a few arrangements.
We plan to skip all the legal stuff like visas, passports, immigration quotas and laws.
I'm sure they handle those things the same way you do here. So, would you mind telling your buddy, President Calderon, that I'm on my way over?
Please let him know that I will be expecting the following:
1. Free medical care for my entire family.
2. English-speaking government bureaucrats for all services I might need, whether I use them or not.
3. Please print all Mexican Government forms in English.
4. I want my grandkids to be taught Spanish by English-speaking (bi-lingual) teachers.
5. Tell their schools they need to include classes on American culture and history.
6. I want my grandkids to see the American flag on one of the flag poles at their school.
7. Please plan to feed my grandkids at school for both breakfast and lunch.
8. I will need a local Mexican driver's license so I can get easy access to government services.
9. I do plan to get a car and drive in Mexico , but I don't plan to purchase car insurance, and I probably won't make any special effort to learn local traffic laws.
10. In case one of the Mexican police officers does not get the memo from their president to leave me alone, please be sure that every patrol car has at least one English-speaking officer.
11. I plan to fly the US. flag from my housetop, put U S. flag decals on my car, and have a gigantic celebration on July 4th. I do not want any complaints or negative comments from the locals.
12. I would also like to have a nice job without paying any taxes, or have any labor or tax laws enforced on any business I may start.
13. Please have the president tell all the Mexican people to be extremely nice and never say critical things about me or my family, or about the strain we might place on their economy.
14. I want to receive free food stamps.
15. Naturally, I'll expect free rent subsidies.
16. I'll need income tax credits so that although I don't pay Mexican taxes, I'll receive money from the government.
17. Please arrange it so that the Mexican Government pays $4,500.00 to help me buy a new car.
18. Oh yes, I almost forgot, please enroll me free into the Mexican Social Security program so that I'll get a monthly income in retirement.
I know this is an easy request because you already do all these things for all his people who walk over to the US. from Mexico I am sure that President Calderon won't mind returning the favor if you ask him nicely.
Thank you so much for your kind help.
You're the man!!!
P.S. I hear that otherwise, they are not as kind as you with illegals who enter Mexico and throw them in jail for two years the first time and then for 10-years if they dare re-enter. For starters. So your letter would really be appreciated.
19. Please make sure that they don't object to me doing whatever I please with complete disregard to laws and the people around me or I will have to label them racists.
20. After I arrive in Mexico please help me to establish groups that will fight for my right to break the law. Maybe we could call them the Mexican Civil Liberties Union (MCLU) or La White-a.
If CDF has a "Post Hall Of Fame," I nominate this one.
this is a copy and paste job. Do we give awards for lack of creativity? That sounds a bit Socialist
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I was a 20 year old gringa with a keen sense of danger. In fact, the one time I was assaulted was in a TOURIST area.
I spent most of my time living in Oaxaca and traveling in Chiapas and there was no lack of government officials who spoke English (though I speak Spanish so I had no need). Many retirees live all over Mexico and DEMAND English services. Most of the private schools (where all but the poor go), even in backwater areas I visited, started their English curriculum young as well.
