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Old 05-12-2010, 01:41 AM
 
Location: Palm Springs, CA
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How do you fiscal conservatives view this info?
I'm guessing they'll just say it's not true and that it's propaganda from the "liberal media". They don't believe anything in the news unless it suits their world view.
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Old 05-12-2010, 01:47 AM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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I'm guessing they'll just say it's not true and that it's propaganda from the "liberal media". They don't believe anything in the news unless it suits their world view.
Tell you what. Get your paycheck, add up all the money taken out of your check that goes to local, state, and federal governments; divide that amount by the gross amount you were paid before deductions, then tell us how much of your income is going to taxes and that's not including sales taxes as well as taxes and fees tacked on to cable/satellite TV, cell phones, home phones, and other services.
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Old 05-12-2010, 02:21 AM
 
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Tell you what. Get your paycheck, add up all the money taken out of your check that goes to local, state, and federal governments; divide that amount by the gross amount you were paid before deductions, then tell us how much of your income is going to taxes and that's not including sales taxes as well as taxes and fees tacked on to cable/satellite TV, cell phones, home phones, and other services.
Ah!

Because unidentified male's personal tax situation represents the mean US taxpayers effective tax rate?

That will PROVE you are right!
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Old 05-12-2010, 02:24 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Since when was the argument about paying more taxes under Obama or Bush or Truman? The argument is we pay too much in taxes to an inefficient federal government.
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Old 05-12-2010, 02:25 AM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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Ah!

Because unidentified male's personal tax situation represents the mean US taxpayers effective tax rate?

That will PROVE you are right!
OK, don't try to do the math on your own paycheck. Either you're too stupid to do the math yourself or you don't have a paycheck. Which is it? The article in USA Today says one tax percentage and my paycheck shows something totally different. Which one am I going to believe? A news article from a biased source or every paycheck I receive?
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Old 05-12-2010, 02:32 AM
 
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Tell you what. Get your paycheck, add up all the money taken out of your check that goes to local, state, and federal governments; divide that amount by the gross amount you were paid before deductions, then tell us how much of your income is going to taxes and that's not including sales taxes as well as taxes and fees tacked on to cable/satellite TV, cell phones, home phones, and other services.
If you can't figure out how structure your income to lower you tax, don't complain to us.
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Old 05-12-2010, 02:39 AM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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If you can't figure out how to structure your income to lower you tax, don't complain to us.
Do your own paycheck and tell us what is the percentage taken out by city, state, and federal government. I come up with a combined 20%,...what do you come up with?
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Old 05-12-2010, 02:40 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Since when was the argument about paying more taxes under Obama or Bush or Truman? The argument is we pay too much in taxes to an inefficient federal government.
How much in taxes did you pay? Did you also claim sales tax credit on your federal taxes?

If you want to see abuse of tax system, look no further than in Texas. In fact, I was reading about the expansion of TX-114, TX-121 and I-635 interchange and, in typical "fiscal conservative" approach, the lanes being built to alleviate traffic issues to the north of DFW airport are being paid for by the taxes (no private contribution is involved) and it would still be a toll road, likely collected by a private company.
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Old 05-12-2010, 02:41 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Do your own paycheck and tell us what is the percentage taken out by city, state, and federal government. I come up with a combined 20%,...what do you come up with?
How did you come up with City taxes? Did you also consider credits that you typically apply against federal taxes?
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Old 05-12-2010, 02:48 AM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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How did you come up with City taxes? Did you also consider credits that you typically apply against federal taxes?
My city doesn't charge an income tax but it does charge other forms of taxes that goes directly to the city/parish government. I was going to consider the credits and the amount I receive back from the federal government however I decided not to do that due to the amount we pay in sales taxes as well as fees on virtually every service we use including home phone, cell phone, cable/satellite TV, and internet to name a few.
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