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no, no I'm not.. I simply posted a link showing that in 2008 they recovered 10 times as much as 2009.. You are the one making assumptions and trying to explain it away.
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Wow! There was sure a lot of fraud going on under the Bush administration!
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Do you honestly believe that the FBI became less adept at uncovering it?
Those are criminal lawsuit judgments ONLY.. there are TONS of funds recovered that are voluntarily paid without judgments being involved or crimes being charged.
Its the OP who actually has the statistics off because the $2.5B isnt medicare fraud, its $2.5B in overpayments recovered.. This is in ADDITION to other medicare fraud which has not yet been disclosed.
no, no I'm not.. I simply posted a link showing that in 2008 they recovered 10 times as much as 2009.. You are the one making assumptions and trying to explain it away.
Those are lawsuit judgments ONLY.. there are TONS of funds recovered that are voluntarily paid without judgments being involved.
Then lets see the GOVERNMENT link showing exactly what was recovered.
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Most of those figures are up from 2008, when the government won or negotiated $1 billion in judgments and settlements,
Most of those figures are up from 2008, when the government won or negotiated $1 billion in judgments and settlements
From YOUR link..
Stepped-up Medicare fraud enforcement snags $2.5B - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100513/ap_on_bi_ge/us_health_care_fraud - broken link) The government says it recovered $2.5 billion in overpayments for the Medicare trust fund last year
OVERPAYMENTS are NOT fraud.. they are OVERPAYMENTS. You are arguing TWO different items..
From YOUR link..
Stepped-up Medicare fraud enforcement snags $2.5B - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100513/ap_on_bi_ge/us_health_care_fraud - broken link) The government says it recovered $2.5 billion in overpayments for the Medicare trust fund last year
OVERPAYMENTS are NOT fraud.. they are OVERPAYMENTS. You are arguing TWO different items..
Oh yes it is! Over payment is the number one Medicare fraud method used.
I'd say its more likely the source is more accurate than you are considering you cant even tell the difference between fraud, and an overpayment recovery..
Woops.. Here goes your government link.. http://www.oig.hhs.gov/publications/docs/semiannual/2008/semiannual_fall2008.pdf (broken link) For fiscal year (FY) 2008, the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) Office of Inspector General (OIG) reported savings and expected recoveries of more than $20.4 billion: $16.72 billion in implemented recommendations to put funds to better use, $1.33 billion in audit receivables, and $2.35 billion* in investigative receivables
Go argue with the Inspector General and tell him you know more than he does...
Oh yes it is! Over payment is the number one Medicare fraud method used.
No its not.. An overpayment is..
A procedure should have paid $50.00, but medicare paid $60.00, then they recover the extra $10.00.
Thats NOT FRAUD.. Its an overpayment.. Its like buying chocolate milk at the store for $3.00 and you pay, and then the store discovers you bought white milk, and refunds you the $.40 difference because you overpaid.
I'd say its more likely the source is more accurate than you are considering you cant even tell the difference between fraud, and an overpayment recovery..
Woops.. Here goes your government link.. http://www.oig.hhs.gov/publications/docs/semiannual/2008/semiannual_fall2008.pdf (broken link) For fiscal year (FY) 2008, the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) Office of Inspector General (OIG) reported savings and expected recoveries of more than $20.4 billion: $16.72 billion in implemented recommendations to put funds to better use, $1.33 billion in audit receivables, and $2.35 billion* in investigative receivables
Go argue with the Inspector General and tell him you know more than he does...
"Expected" recoveries and actual recoveries are two different thing. What is the actual amount that was recovered? Also, what part of that figure is "expected savings?"
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