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Old 05-15-2010, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Rational World Park
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Old 05-15-2010, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Neither here nor there
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As long as the top military advisers are telling Obama they don't think openly gay people in the military is a good idea, he is doing the right thing by listening to them. I know that libs think this is something to be decided by popular vote, but some decisions are best left to those who are qualified to make them.
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Old 05-15-2010, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Rational World Park
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As long as the top military advisers are telling Obama they don't think openly gay people in the military is a good idea, he is doing the right thing by listening to them. I know that libs think this is something to be decided by popular vote, but some decisions are best left to those who are qualified to make them.
I would hope that 70% of the American people have more pull than a few military advisers stuck in the 50s.
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Old 05-15-2010, 10:12 AM
 
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I would hope that 70% of the American people have more pull than a few military advisers stuck in the 50s.
Yeah what would the military know about it's own culture.
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Old 05-15-2010, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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It'll eventually happen.

It just depends on how long people want to hold down progress
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Old 05-15-2010, 10:22 AM
 
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Wasn't this one of Obama's campaign promises, to end DADT?
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Old 05-15-2010, 10:40 AM
 
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I would hope that 70% of the American people have more pull than a few military advisers stuck in the 50s.
That is one of the most unenlightened and ignorant statements I have ever seen in this forum......and half of what is said here is little more than mean-spirited garbage. If you think that 70% of the people in this country know more than career military officers who have made it to the top of their career paths, then there is no hope for you.
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Old 05-15-2010, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Long Beach
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As long as the top military advisers are telling Obama they don't think openly gay people in the military is a good idea, he is doing the right thing by listening to them. I know that libs think this is something to be decided by popular vote, but some decisions are best left to those who are qualified to make them.
Except every major military adviser has gone on record saying it doesn't work, it is unjust and unfair and should be repealed. From the Secretary of Defense to the Joint Chiefs of Staff on down.

It's just the retard republicans led by Johnny McCain who refuse to listen to them.

I know it's quite inconvenient to your small-minded, self-satisfied mentality, but de'Nile ain't a river in the heartland.
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Old 05-15-2010, 10:59 AM
 
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Except every major military adviser has gone on record saying it doesn't work, it is unjust and unfair and should be repealed. From the Secretary of Defense to the Joint Chiefs of Staff on down.

It's just the retard republicans led by Johnny McCain who refuse to listen to them.

I know it's quite inconvenient to your small-minded, self-satisfied mentality, but de'Nile ain't a river in the heartland.
Like I said:

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half of what is said here is little more than mean-spirited garbage.
And, I didn't know John McCain had any influence at all on POTUS decisions.

This is not a matter to be decided by public vote. If Obama is delaying a decision on this matter because of advice from his military advisers, then that is one thing he is doing right. I should hope he would listen to them instead than the rabble-at-large.
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Old 05-15-2010, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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That is one of the most unenlightened and ignorant statements I have ever seen in this forum......and half of what is said here is little more than mean-spirited garbage. If you think that 70% of the people in this country know more than career military officers who have made it to the top of their career paths, then there is no hope for you.
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Originally Posted by Admiral Mike Mullen, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
Mr. Chairman, speaking for myself and myself only, it is my personal belief that allowing gays and lesbians to serve openly would be the right thing to do. No matter how I look at the issue, I cannot escape being troubled by the fact that we have in place a policy which forces young men and women to lie about who they are in order to defend their fellow citizens.

For me, personally, it comes down to integrity--theirs as individuals and ours as an institution.

I also believe that the great young men and women of our military can and would accommodate such a change. I never underestimate their ability to adapt.
Admiral Mike Mullen on Don't Ask, Don't Tell | The Atlantic Wire
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